They claim that pre-made teams aren't stacked

[Hawne-blaumeux]

@Cauchy-heartseeker

Not only does this screw over the Horde, it screws over any Alliance who’s not partaking. Anyone choosing to queue solo, anyone who’s sub-70 or without their epic mount (which would be strange at 70…) will get lumped together in a much weaker group. Random queues at least mix it up so both sides have an equal shot at getting “good” and “bad” players.

Yes this is exactly the problem that alliance has. And it’s one reason why breaking premades generally will help alliance more than horde.

Most well geared horde simply queue as pugs due to the queue times (even just a 10-15 min queue makes it significantly less likely for people to run premades compared to near instant alliance queues).

The best geared alliance on the other hand only typically play in premades; there are a bunch of alliance in my Spy that I’ve fought numerous times who I literally only see in premades.

The most important thing is average player quality should rise among alliance in WSG/AB/EOTS.

As for your OP, you’re 100% right about this.

[Divium-archimonde (Divium)]

No one sounds this stupid definitely fake

[Bodicca-westfall]

I got in a discord without doing any of that. I joined by someone linking the discord in chat before the match even started. I didn’t have to post a screenshot or verify anything.

I played and won a few games using that discord and I haven’t been kicked yet.

@Cauchy-heartseeker

So, you’re required to be level 70

Level 70 has its own bracket, so . . . yeah.

[Cauchy-heartseeker]

@Emmortahl-nazjatar

Saw tons of players that were 60 in month 1 of Classic still not buying their epic by the end of Classic. I don’t get it, but some people are really cheap or awful at making gold I guess.

I leveled my druid first, then this toon. I queued up some before I hit 60 and at 60 before I could get my mount, and yeah… I got stuck with less than 20 people and would get stomped. They screwed everyone but themselves.

@Bodicca-westfall

Level 70 has its own bracket, so . . . yeah.

In AV? Then how are sub-70’s queueing on both sides?

[Emmortahl-nazjatar]

@Bodicca-westfall

Level 70 has its own bracket, so . . . yeah.

AV has always been x1-x0, unlike the smaller games.

[Thescumlord-heartseeker]

In shadowburn, you didn’t play AV without premading. Anyway just thought I’d mention.

[Divium-archimonde (Divium)]

After reading the quote from the rules by blizzard’s definition it is cheating.

[Shambouki-atiesh]

@Styls-earthfury

There is a reason why blizzard put a stop to it in classic and it wasnt because the horde started to cry about it.

This is the only reason blizzard introduced antisocial caps in bgs.

Too many people went horde and that resulted in longer queues than Alliance even way back in classic vanilla, so Alliance had to deal with it by way of Blizzard catering to horde crying. As usual.

[Wam-herod]

I disagree highlight the part that you think proves its cheating

[Cauchy-heartseeker]

@Thescumlord-heartseeker

In shadowburn, you didn’t play AV without premading. Anyway just thought I’d mention.

We were in Ruin. We dominated AV without premade teams. AB, WSG and EotS weren’t always so great, however.

[Socratus-sulfuras]

i salute your honesty sir. I feel humbled its almost like your a paladin on the forum

[Styls-earthfury]

@Shambouki-atiesh

This is the only reason blizzard introduced antisocial caps in bgs.

Too many people went horde and that resulted in longer queues than Alliance even way back in classic vanilla, so Alliance had to deal with it by way of Blizzard catering to horde crying. As usual.

WTF are you talking about? The main and ONLY reason AV premades were nerf in classic was because they were being toxic to their own faction. Leaving games that not enough of their discord people got into. It had ZERO to do with horde complains.

[Cauchy-heartseeker]

@Shambouki-atiesh

This is the only reason blizzard introduced antisocial caps in bgs.

If you read anything in the forums back then, there were plenty of Alliance complaining. If you weren’t part of their premade group, they would spam /spit and mass-report you as AFK. So, not only did you get to participate, you got yourself a deserter debuff to boot.

[Notglinda-pagle]

@Blairice-heartseeker

Heartseeker is about to get very uncomfortable for you and your sad little guild.

rofl

[Wam-herod]

@Styls-earthfury

It had ZERO to do with horde complains.

What are you smoking let me get on that

[Styls-earthfury]

@Wam-herod

What are you smoking let me get on that

Are you special? Do you not remember alliance crying about games starting underman cuz people would leave them and like Cauchy mention below…

@Cauchy-heartseeker

If you weren’t part of their premade group, they would spam /spit and mass-report you as AFK. So, not only did you get to participate, you got yourself a deserter debuff to boot.

I mean… do you have short term memory lost? That would explain a lot.

[Notglinda-pagle]

@Blairice-heartseeker

cuck nerd

This is the most beautifully virginal statement I imagine I’ll read all week.

[Shambouki-atiesh]

@Styls-earthfury

The main and ONLY reason AV premades were nerf in classic was because

The horde pvp crowd are crybabies. That is the main and only reason. Relying on a baked in map advantage made them unable to deal with losing to premades, which they couldn’t do; because way too many people played horde and had long queue times.

@Cauchy-heartseeker

If you read anything in the forums back then, there were plenty of Alliance complaining

No, I read a whole bunch of horde complaining about it though. These crocodile tears from the horde who “cared about alliance pugs” while stomping them into the dirt and gy camping them due to games not filling are a joke.

Av Premading stopped because horde players cried and got their change, as we see with upcoming the stupidest change they could have implemented; HvH bgs.

[Styls-netherwind]

@Shambouki-atiesh

No, I read a whole bunch of horde complaining about it though. These crocodile tears from the horde who “cared about alliance pugs” while stomping them into the dirt and gy camping them due to games not filling are a joke.

Av Premading stopped because horde players cried and got their change, as we see with upcoming the stupidest change they could have implemented; HvH bgs.

You are beyond dense. If you dont acknowledge that alliance AV premades were being toxic to their own faction. I bet you didnt even pvp in classic.

[Bodicca-westfall]

@Cauchy-heartseeker

In AV? Then how are sub-70’s queueing on both sides?

Ok I’ll reword it.

You don’t play with level 61’s in EOTS etc. Level 70s have their own bracket. You don’t want to play with level 61s either so how is it a huge deal to want to play with others in your own bracket?