These wotlk heroics are a snooze at lvl 77 in blues

Why would I need to provide proof, this is common knowledge, it’s been common knowledge, and until WoD it’s how it worked. There is zero reason to implement mythic difficulty dungeons or to increase difficulty of the current heroics. If you want that go play retail. You’ve already got your trash LFG tool now in Wrath, we don’t want or need more garbage retail systems, 90% of us want Wrath as it was. Those of you are unhappy with this, go play retail and leave the rest of us alone

So no you don’t have a source, its just your opinion. Thanks.

Yawn.

You don’t get to make this call. Perhaps your issue is your are overly combative and that hinders your social skills.

No my issue is you Zomer’s and your need to screw up everything good and wholesome on this planet. As for a source, none is needed, this entire forum has already told you the purpose of dungeons in wrath, its common knowledge, if I was facing off against you on a debate team you’d have just lost the match plain and simple, because in a debate you don’t have to provide proof of common knowledge, your required to provide proof that the common knowledge is wrong. What you are is entitled, and convinced of your own superiority, when you’ve done nothing to earn that feeling. I’m going to wager you where a kid during Wrath, maybe didn’t even play it back then, and now your in here demanding they change it, all of you zoomers are demanding they change it for your tastes. I’m so sick of zoomers, your entire generation is a plauge.

This statement is patently false.

I was working on my bachelor’s degree during Wrath and should have spent more time studying than playing but alas hindsight and such.

Zoomer (had to look this up, had no idea lol) - 1996 - 2010. I do not fall in this age group. In fact I graduated high school before they were born.

I’m not trying to “change” anything. I’m participating in a discussion about a game I’m waiting to play. If you are so offended by other people having a differing opinion perhaps you should not be on the forums.

Wrong, as a state debate champion, I’m pretty sure when it comes to this I’m far more informed than you. Common knowledge is not required to be backed up, otherwise someone could debate the sky isn’t blue or human’s dont have blood in their veins. These arguements fail and don’t require proof because its common knowledge. You would have to prove your statement is correct, so go ahead find a statement from 2008-2009 where any of the original wow devs said heroics were meant to be hard and end game content, I’ll wait.

As for change anything you most certainly are, you anti RDF, your pro making raids and dungeons harder, and I’d wager your also onboard the anti boosting and anti gold farming non sense. You are not an OG lover of the best expansion wow had, you are a retail whiner.

So you gave your opinion, others disagree and you have an emotional meltdown.

Of course you are, one can totally tell by your overwhelming intellect and calm demeaner when having discussions. I’m surprised you have so much free time to be on the forums while looking over your kingdom. I’m sure your large haram takes care of the estates and castle while you grace us all with your wisdom.

No im just tired of you zoomers, i don’t care how old you are, you have a zoomer mindset, and its pitiful, and I will show zero respect for anyone with a zoomer mindset.

Wasn’t even such a thing as hate speech when we all played wrath back in the day. Nuff said.

As a debate champion, king, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist and Nobel winner you know that ad hominem attacks are a sign of a weak mind.

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I’m a debate champion, but I have reached an age where I no longer have patience of stupidity or stupid thoughts, and no I’m not required to give them any credence or thought

I apologize for my previous statement, it was wrong to belittle or assume the worst of you. I reacted to aggression in kind and that is never productive.

I can appreciate your lack of patience, I suffer from it from time to time myself. While posting in another thread it occurred to me that if I was passionate about this either way I may also get a bit heated if I thought someone was trying to change something I enjoyed.

I do not see a difficulty increase as anything but a boon for the game, you see it different and that’s cool. I would also stomach having RDF in with ICC it was originally.

Anyway, I do not think teasing or “poking the bear” as it were is good form.

Cheers.

You are mistaken in a few things. The biggest being that in tbc the heroics were 100% designed to be a stepping stone to raids. Adding the 100% tells me that you just guess and if it fits logically then u consider it fact.

The fact is, the heroics in tbc were designed for raiders. They were tuned for players already having gear from raids.

And wow has gotten easier and easier with every expansion. I am not saying there is a small percentage of content in retail that is not difficult. Mythic raiding. The other 90% of the game has been a joke. Old time players that were still playing retail were making comments about how they had forgotten what it was like to be able to actually die while questing. Retail was turned into the easy mode game for everything but mythic modes. They also add timers to the mythic dumgeons to add difficulty. Speed running is what adds muxj of the difficulty, not the content.

Which is literally what I said.

ok boomer

Is this guy serious?

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I am 100% serious, you don’t need to provide proof of common knowledge, you’ve never needed to, anyone arguing against common knowledge must prove otherwise, the shoe remains on the other foot.

ok calm down State Debate Champion, don’t get your blood pressure up

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That dude is the definition of sweat rofl

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The reason why heroic Wrath dungeons are easier than tbc heroics is because they are now a stepping stone to normal raids. With heroic raids becoming the hardest content heroic dungeons do not need to be difficult.

isnt that the role of hunter?

Heroic raids don’t even exist until T9…