These wotlk heroics are a snooze at lvl 77 in blues

doesn’t matter if that’s how it was back in the day, the majority of the players are better now. don’t kill your own game in the first week, BUFF the heroics! please!

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Or sweat less?

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Maybe WotLK isn’t for you?

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Maybe they could put in some sort of system where, I dunno…a group of non-optimal classes played by players of various skill levels are put together automatically and ported to the dungeon? That may make the dungeons a little more challenging, have replayability, and even help out some lesser experienced players all at once.

Weird!

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There should be RDF where one person is assigned to intentionally try to wipe the group. That is the only way heroics will be a challenge

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Lol the heroics will only be relevant for a few weeks then ppl will want them as easy as possible to farm quickly for badges only. Its okay they are easy, level an alt during p1. A heroic that takes longer through hp buffs will not make it more fun tbh.

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Heroics are not endgame. They never were. They were meant to be a way to prep gearing or catch up for raids. This is why we say removing LFD is a mistake. Heroics take 10-15 minutes to finish tops in WOTLK. Forming the group will take 5x the time the actual heroic takes.

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cool i enjoy fast easy heroics

heroics like BF and MT were awful cause a lot of people couldn’t do it

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How many times are you going to make this troll thread?

This is how Wrath dungeons were. It was glorious. Players actually felt powerful as they got better gear. I miss that in Retail. Speaking of which…it sounds like you’d be happier there.

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Not much may even come from that that.

I know the classic zealots are going hahahaha, the retails “scum” tourists won’t know what to do here.

retail “scum” tourists have been running wrath dungeons in their 60 to 80 leveling for years. Hell I have seen several wrath dungeons in that past couple of chars lfd pulls in leveling in the past months.

Its also liked for timewalking. Now that lfd gets fun. the tank not a tank usually. the healer not a healer usually. they do this to get this picked up faster.

we still hammer through it. It can be ugly…but it gets done.

Yeah…people going in with meta classes and SURPRISE…the content is boringly easy. The community likes to ruin the game for itself.

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That’s exactly how it was in WotLK.

We’re now approaching an expansion that actually had a ton of streamlined, online resources available just about everywhere. This is not a “people didn’t know you could do this!” expansion. I watched a paladin solo King Varian, a bear soloing Heroics, and DKs were working on soloing ICC.

Go play on a private server if you want more wonky changes.

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Pretty sure people play classic for a more chill environment

That being said, when mythic dungeons come out in retail on a new expansion you can completely skip heroic dungeons as well. It’s a bit harder, but basically the same thing as you’ve just described

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While I would like to have LFD, there are workarounds to mitigate this. Just form a group willing to do multiple dungeons and it will balance out the time it takes to form the group. I did that a lot in TBC grinding rep. I’m sure others will be willing To do the same for badges

Removal of LFD won’t be the end of the world and the game can still be just as enjoyable… ya just gotta take what you have and make it work

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Good news! There is a version of the game that suits your “hard dungeons”. It’s called retail and then each dungeon you do, you get a key to make the next one harder! It’s like it was made just for you! So hop on retail and hard dungeon all you want!

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now with even more mythic options.

I hear grimrail depot is where the cool kids go. to relearn jsut how fun it was the first time. and its different now. Its even worse till people learn its changes.

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Wrath dungeons were tuned for casuals on the premis that they would need to dumb down the content compared to previous expansion to accommodate a random grouping tool that would throw 5 clueless players into higher level mechanic instance.

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nope. stop the dumb changes.

Lets just hope how they said they want to expand on heroics to make them more long term that they do something to spice it up instead of a stacking health/dmg increase.

You’ve gotta stink up mom’s basement somehow.