These new forums are... well okay maybe not so bad

Wyrmrest Accord
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i didnt even realize there isnt an ignore button anymore

what the funk?

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god has thrown us to the wolves and their den is called the forums

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These new forums are flat-out ugly.

Also: whose ā€œbrilliantā€ idea was it to include LOW CHARACTER LIMITS, especially for the RP forums?

Itā€™s important to be succinct, but thatā€™s just silly.

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Thereā€™s a lot of bad ideas thrown in here in general, ye. But Zandrae found the source of all the bad ideas if you read back up so it becomes kind of funny.

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1111

Yeah.

Some of the stuff or lack of stuff in this software and the devā€™s opinions is exactly why a software engineer should study design, sociology, and some sort of minority studies at the very least.

Thereā€™s a reason I, as a software engineering student, have an associates in arts and humanities and am considering a behavioral science minor or double major.

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Rise and shine letā€™s get this bread!

Seriously I made too much toast. Please take some.:bread:

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Then letā€™s overload their senses.

:rainbow_flag: :rainbow_flag: :rainbow_flag: :rainbow_flag::rainbow_flag:

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:rainbow_flag: every day pride day

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As proud as a peacock.

:rainbow_flag: :peacock: :rainbow_flag:

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:rainbow_flag: :eagle: :rainbow_flag:

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i was playing the eso morrowind expansion and theres a quest to save a ladies wife who constantly refers to her as her wife

and at the end of the quest chain a living god decrees that the woman should probably take her wife on a nice vacation

blizzard needs to step it up :rainbow_flag:

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Thereā€™s also a character who talks about being trans and transitioning and how itā€™s a semi-common thing amongst their weird little magic cult.

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I love fantasy universe where they treat this as -just a normal thing-. ā€œā€¦Why would we care who you love? That makes no sense.ā€

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Yep! Thatā€™s in Summerset. Which is pretty neat cause before that the Altmer werenā€™t exactly displayed as the nicest race on Nirn (what with them being ratherā€¦not-see-ish in all but name in Skyrim)

Itā€™s not exactly high on the list of riveting lore reveals but Iā€™m interested in how the other cultures view gender identity and stuff. I mean dunmer worship either the daedra, or the Tribunal, both deities with rather lax views on gender (at least in Vivecs case) so Iā€™m sure theyā€™re pretty open in that regard in contrast to their usual xenophobia and nationalism.

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If any of you want a good read that handles this stuff maturely, Iā€™d recommend Christopher Nuttall. Both his Schooled in Magic and Zero series (which are both fantasy) handle it in such a way that while itā€™s not shoved in your face, itā€™s completely normalized in that society.

In the Zero series, itā€™s even -part of- society. They acknowledge it and there are social structures and norms based around it, whereas in SiM itā€™s kind of only really acknowledged as a concern by the upper-class who actually -care- about reproducing, and even then itā€™s suggested they only marry for political purposes and taking on lovers is acceptable.

((As a note, the author also does a lot of background world-building on his website, so if something doesnā€™t appear in his books, it may have very well done so on there))

Oh, also, the first SiM book is a bitā€¦ rough. His work before that is even more rough. But it picks up well once he gets his stride in.

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Thank you for the recommendation! adds to the list of authors to read

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Absolutely! As an example thatā€™s not in the book itself but is a bit of background stuff on his website, in the Zero series every member of polite society is encouraged (by law) to wear their hair in a specific way. While at first glance that may sound silly, this is something -nobody- is exempt from and isnā€™t in any form used to bully others.

They consider that as advertisement. If your young, you cannot wear your hair down or thatā€™s improper, if youā€™re of marriageable age, female, and unmarried, you generally wear your hair down, if youā€™re male and interested in the same sex, you grow your hair long and so on.

Nobody is shamed for having interests that conflict with other peoples interests. Everything is based thoroughly in cold logic, which is a hallmark of the author - his obsession with justifying every little detail with logic.

ā€“> Obviously this isnā€™t something I would consider acceptable for an actual, real world society to do, but this isnā€™t a real world society. Thereā€™s no judgement going around, so itā€™s not something I think is personally worth getting up in arms about since nobody is being suppressed. Iā€™m almost positive the author is of the same mind-set.

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Iā€™ve heard from a number of conventionally published fantasy authors that there is pushback fromt he gatekeepers in the industry when they try to explore these issues. Itā€™s a damn shame, not just for reasons of representation but because it shows how out of touch publishing houses are. I write a webserial that only a couple thousand people (estimating generously) read and I explore themes of gender and sexual identity in my worldbuilding, and the response from readers is near-universally positive. The worldā€™s ready for this; itā€™s just the old men guarding the gates who arenā€™t.

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Definitely. The author I mentioned is self-published on Amazon via their kindle thingy. Iā€™m not sure if he makes physical copies. He pumps out books like a madman, too, when heā€™s not sick. Thatā€™s probably the reason why heā€™s able to get away with it. :confused:

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