These Blue quotes about Alterec Valley, facepalm

True. They like to troll the forums sometimes too.

Yeah, I remember when that thread came out and he said that. I was…disappointed with that mentality. Actually that’s not true. I was sickened by it. And we see the results now. This is what 1.12 AV supports: a zerg.

It’s too bad, because the original version of the battleground was so unique and interesting. Two warrior factions just going at it. The players were merely a small part of the battle. The devs completely abandoned the entire point of the bg. And that was back in Vanilla. And then the Classic devs instead of returning to the original version…gave us what players have been experiencing for 10+ years, and still can experience today in BfA. I just don’t understand that design philosophy.

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I still have a Tauren Hoof in my bank on my lvl 120 undead warrior after some weird glitch let me loot a Tauren during vanilla AV. I’ll always cherish it to this day.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Classic is one of the LEAST skill based and MOST rock-paper-scissors based versions of pvp with Gear disparities thrown in for good measure.

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Bfa failed when thousands of players would rather play a 15 year old game then a modern version of the same game.

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LOL! No.

This:

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nah, people are still playing it too

times change…

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Oh wow, look at you- very smart guy.
I guess you never heard about statistic and representative sample.

Which is exactly what happened in Vanilla before AV changed; hardly any players were engaging in AV battles except for the dedicated few who genuinely enjoyed the original battleground and those players were hilariously outnumbered by people who preferred the quick in/out games AB and WSG offered. Those were the people, even prior to 1.12, in every single AV screaming OMG HURRY UP SO I CAN GET IN ANOTHER ONE.

I played on a high-medium realm in those days and there was only ever one AV going; a second one would pop up on the weekends.

Have you heard about representative sample ? People with complaints are not representative of all players playing.

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lol? That’s why I can win every single 1v1 matchup with each class? Only noobs think its rock paper scissors. Thats more for BFA, where there is hardly a skill gap.

Yeah, who wants 2 hours AVs?

I want EIGHT hour AVs.

If people wanted 2 hours AV, they’d be fighting instead of losing and then requeueing all the time.

Rush Alliance head on. Use check points.

At this point in the game, it’s VERY unlikely Blizzard is going to rebuild the original version of AV from the ground up. AV is what it is. Make do.

They do it because it works. It shouldn’t work. Towers should be obliterating passerbys and the bosses should not be killable with towers up.

I fully intend to cause turtles as much as I possibly can once I reach 60.

Um, you do know they did precisely that and then used it for a limited time, not in classic, but in bfa… right? That is why so many want to punch blizzard through their monitors.

They literally have a working early AV.

even as a premade wsg is trash honor vs AV

literally no serious ranker is gonna play WSG unless its WSG weekend

Its literally zoomers optimizing things for the fastest way to their goal. This would happen in any itteration of AV. While its nice to post and see other people who dont like the current meta, a meta would develop for an version of AV, and it wouldnt be running aorund the fields of strife like a chicken with its head cut off. Unless you lcould literally seperate the queue into people who just want to run around and do casual stuff and people min/maxing honor and rep gains you will always have this problem

But it’s not the original AV, which is what Mezrine(spelling) was talking about.

I’ve played the Korrak’s Revenge in retail. You can get some long games, yes – was in one for 2.5 hours – but most of them last between 15 to 45 minutes, tops.

Honestly just here to bump OP.

There isnt any PvP going on in AV.

I legitimately wanted to enjoy the rep grind to exalted – instead it’s become an exercise in waiting in queue for 4 mintues, getting rolled by 30 players over and over again for about 4 minutes; rinse and repeat.

This isn’t AV, as I understand it – and the fact that it hasn’t been hotfixed to benefit the quality of gameplay after 48 hours is ‘interesting.’

Most remarkable.