Go bad to doing what they did in the first place. Investigate reports of gold sellers. Determine if they were really selling gold. Ban those accounts and anyone caught buying gold from them. You know like they used to do.
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What they used to do was not nearly as effective in dissuading Gold Sellers from spamming the public chat channels. I personally don’t think Blizzard will take your advice to go back to doing things the way they used to and paying out millions of dollars in court fees and additional salaries for full-time employees to deal with the increase in Gold Selling activity.
Instead, they’ll probably just use the effective system they’ve had in place for over 10 years.
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So? There’s gonna be some people playing classic just so they can come back to low level zones at the start of 60 and gank as many lowbies as possible until they get tired of it and quits. Who cares? The game will eventually weed out all of the weak and negative players anyway. And I’ve seen it first hand with the release of AQ on my private server.
I love the false dichotomies created by the pro-change crowd:
Everyone against auto-squelch MUST want to troll chat…
Everyone against loot trading MUST want to be a loot ninja…
Everyone against sharding MUST want to sit in queue for hours on end…
etc…
![:cocktail:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/cocktail.png?v=6" ":cocktail:")
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This thread reads like Minority Report for chat crimes. Last time I check the sky was still up there and not falling down. Is this really an issue for a game that nobody has played yet to verify?
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Lot of citations needed in what you claimed…
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And Vrakthis, Orlyia, etc. have all said that the Ignore Feature, and the Mature Language Filter, are not excuses. They also state players should not be forced to have to resort to such systems just because some jerk can’t follow the legal agreement they signed.
Two things:
- Forums are handled by the moderator team, not the GMs. Different staff, different rules/policies governing them.
- If this is true, then you would have easily won any appeal. Even if the suspension ends before they process the ticket, they will still remove the black mark on your record.
They still do that should one arise. The thing is handling the gold selling in and of itself is not the issue. That’s a strawman you’re constructing which is easily torched. The issue is the fact that, without this system, they can spam the channel and make it unusable until a GM actually intervenes. Same with someone “n-wording it upo” or some other violation of the Code of Conduct.
Ion already said that Classic on the backend will be pretty much the same as the Retail servers. They will use the BfA database structure for spells and such, sharding/crz will be available, etc. There’s no reason for them not to implement the
The paranoid cry of “BUT IT CAN BE ABUSED!!!” is not a justifiable reason to remove the Squelch. Vote-to-Kick is heavily abused and everyone knows this. It has been since it was implemented in Patch 3.3 going on a decade ago. The system is still in place with some protections.
Exactly. And I don’t think these people are honestly worried about “innocent victims” so much as they’re worried that they won’t be able to get away with breaking the Code of Conduct.
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Technically speaking that hasn’t change all that much.
Splitting 12’s isn’t how it works. That’s gonna be a lot of burn out and a lot of OT. At a minimum you’d need 3 people, and that’s not counting “weekends” (whatever 2 days they get off). You’re looking at a whole team, and Bliz moved away from that because it was too expensive for Retail. What makes you think they are going to do that for Classic?
It’s not a phenomenon unique to the “pro change” people, not by a long shot. Both sides are full of people dug in like this is the western front in WW1. Unfortunately, the reality is likely somewhere in the “no man’s land” in between that neither side is willing to even look at.
No, the reality is Blizzard has no real reason to remove it. The people who are calling for its removal have offered nothing substantial to warrant it. If they did, then it would also be removed from the Retail servers as well.
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i did win the appeal. this isnt about the fact i was banned but the fact someone did that to me and several other people at the same time by abusing the system. reality is that people dont only say inappropriate things, they DO inappropriate things. to suggest only 1 of those things is important enough to worry about, is not realistic nor helpful.
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Why bother? When citations are given they are either flat out ignored or lawyered to death.
And you’re talking about two completely different systems running on two completely different pieces of software on two completely different servers developed by two completely different development staff and enforced by two completely different departments.
See, I noticed you selectively quoted point #2 and and skipped over #1 because it doesn’t fit your agenda.
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Neither of the systems have an automated ban. If a Blizzard Employee gave you a ban it was his decision and felt it was warranted. If that ban was overturned then the one who did that second guessed the original Blizzard Employee who banned you.
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the systems dont matter in the example. what matters is that you’re ignoring what the actual problem was. the problem wasn’t that i said anything inappropriate, the problem was someone did something inappropriate, nearly causing a forum meltdown cause people from both the pro and con positions were being targeted, causing them to accuse each other of doing it. now imagine that in classic, where everyone knows each other in both factions and in various competitive guilds.
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a blizzard employee didn’t ban me. it was automated due to sheer number of flags,; pending a mod review but since it was the weekend and since many people were being simultaneously flagged, it overwhelmed the system.
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You might want to provide some proof of that. Specifically a blue post outlining how forum bans are handed out.
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which part?
The problem was your post got flagged by someone, which could have been a misclick, and a forum moderator misapplied the rules.
Flagging does not cause a ban. Mass flagging causes a post to be hidden behind a link that readers need to click on in order to see your posts. Only a Forum Mod can institute a ban. Sorry.
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Perhaps start with the entire thing you are saying happened.
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