Who has been innocently “punished”? Like I said, so far only one confirmed and it happened by their own request. The rest have all been debunked by Ythisens, Orlyia, and Vrakthis.
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1 is 1 too many.
Even if no one had ever been unfairly punished for a crime they didn’t commit, I would still be against this. Players should not have any ability to punish other players in any capacity even if it takes a large group. Mob rule is not a just rule.
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I can 100% assure you Pedophiles and racists were pushed into said penalty volcano a lil faster than people samming trade lol… a lot faster actually, more of a instantaneous “we don’t want this in our game ever” kind of fast. I could recall word for word actual things these people said to get them banned, their names, and the year they said it, along with how long it took Blizzard to deal with it. However releasing said information would definitely get me banned from the forums lol. Anyway, my case still stands:
As for this…
Did you know you never had to type a ticket? Did you know there’s this thing called right click ignore that’s been in the game since launch? Did you know you didn’t have to hurt others you didn’t wanna listen to and just not listen to them instead?
Side note why does everyone from whisperwind always have to go out of their way to hurt people instead of just letting them live their lives in peace? (My ex wife is on that server ![:disappointed_relieved:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/disappointed_relieved.png?v=6" ":disappointed_relieved:")
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And you completely ignore the fact this individual was on Twitch and asked his viewers to mass report him.
It’s not mob rule, is a community governing itself. Don’t be a jerk and you will have no problem.
The people who complain the most about the silence and squelching systems are usually the ones rightfully punished by either of them. They make posts all the time and, as I noted in the other thread on this topic: It. never. ends. well. for. them. period.
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How do you know it is?
What little evidence we have seems to indicate otherwise, at least in the vast majority of cases.
I’ve only seen evidence of ONE PERSON being punished for abusing the right click report system. That person was a streamer who streamed video of himself when he asked his followers to report him.
I’ve seen video evidence of players in an RBG colluding to squelch a member of the opposing team in order to DC him, but I’ve not heard one peep from anyone about those players receiving any sort of punishment.
I don’t care who it was or why, it shouldn’t be something that can happen.
And it is mob rule. Who are you to decide who is and isn’t being a jerk?
Who are you to decide what is right and wrong? Emotions don’t translate well through text. I can’t even remember the number of times, I’ve seen people take something said to them or in a channel they were in the wrong way because it was text. Are you really going to tell me people should self censor because some group of people might perceive what they said to be a jerky thing to say?
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Since I specifically referenced retail, you obviously are, by your own admission, “playing the game”.
Here is the entire relevant portion of that post, not just wjhat you chose to cherry pick:
You apparently created a new account after your main account was handed a forum vacation. You even leveled a character to level 10, the minimum level required to post on the forums.
I’m sure that you are being totally honest when you say that you created that new account only because you decided to check out retail. It could not possibly have had anything to do with trying to circumvent a forum vacation, could it?
_My question is how do you find the use of /trade in retail? Are you crusading for your beliefs that /trade be used only for trade related chat? Are you reporting anyone that has the audacity to use /trade in a manner you do not like?_
If you are reporting everyone that has the audacity to use /trade in a manner you do not like, how is that working out? Are the players you report even garnering enough reports to be squelched? If those players are being squelched, are those squelches being overturned?
I honestly want to know.
Also just going to point out, that you’re pretty likely to never see evidence of it happening to anyone who didn’t “ask for it on a video” because Blizzard is never going to tell you that kind of thing. It’s not a good look for them.
No one is a perfect emotionless robot. People will fight and debate and argue, because we are human. If you expect people to somehow be 100% nice, pg13, and 4kids friendly all the time to fit this derogative that anyone who isnt should be thrown into the ban volcano with pedophiles at first notice then have fun playing your empty single player experience. Its not a social game if anyone who’s social gets banned, and again, let me remind you all WoW revolves around its community.
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Are you certain that video wasn’t a set-up from the start? That they had someone on the other team intentionally disconnect after reporting them or pretending to report them?
I’m not saying it was falsified but you sure do throw out this example as if it was gospel.
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Have you not seen the video evidence of players in an RBG colluding to squelch a member of the opposing team and cause him to DC?
Tell us all what “crime” or violation the player that was squelched committed.
No I’ve seen that and I’ve said earlier in the thread, it’s not really proof beyond circumstantial evidence.
I find it a really bad look on Blizz if it is something that legit happened, but on the other hand I can’t say it’s not just some random DC.
Overgrown toddlers that have no real problems and either want the attention, or lack any redeeming qualities.
We do not know reports are required to trigger a squelch.
We’ve seen video evidence of players in 10 v10 RBG’s colluding to squelch a player on the opposing team. That would seem to indicate that even 10 reports may enough to trigger a squelch, but I will not say that for certain.
Let’s say that 10 reports triggers an auto squelch, though.
How does 10 people colluding to squelch anther player equate to “a community governing itself”?
it sounds to me like you admit that you have no idea whether anyone abusing the system is punished, other than that one streamer.
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I don’t, but as I’ve made my position clear, I don’t care if no one has ever been wrongly punished with this system. I’m still against it. A group of players no matter the size should not be able to punish other players.
Alright, let’s try this again.
Are you certain that video wasn’t a set-up from the start? That they had someone on the other team intentionally disconnect after reporting them or pretending to report them?
I’m not saying it was falsified but you sure do throw out this example as if it was gospel.
Where are all your posts about this system in the last 10+ years it has been active on World of Warcraft? Why speak up now?
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One of the first things taught by parents to their children should be the value of self censoring. Are you for real?
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Because I wasn’t made aware until recently that there was even an auto punish system in the game. I don’t do things that get me in trouble in the game and generally don’t associate with people who do. And I don’t keep up with every thing Blizzard puts out.
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