I proved you wrong and immediately you choose to ignore it
Iâm not ignoring anything, especially your obvious bias towards this topic.
Where was the the balance when warriors could destroy everyone in their gladiator build?
Thereâs no way they would buff warriors if they didnât nerf that build early on.
Blood dks are doing really fine.
Feral is still a great off tank when you just need a tank to taunt time to time.
Itâs wotlk, itâs paladin time after vanilla and tbc which were terrible for them.
It was where it always was, with the original game.
Letâs not forget which class started this nonsense with balance changes.
Find it funny people always bring up the âWarriors are great in Vanillaâ then completely ignore how Prot Warriors were so bad in TBC that they were a detriment to the raid. Prot Paladins started to get the ball rolling in TBC, and replaced Warriors in P2+ content. So much so that no one brought the prot warrior for fights theyâre supposed to tank. Like reliquary of souls Lust, and Illidan. All prot warriors were for were for P1 starter up tanking, and people saw the writing on the wall and didnât even bother with prot warriors and just geared up druids and paladins to tank. So if by that logic of going was good in X and bad in X expansion, then prot warriors should be the god tanks in this expansion.
Prot warriors are designed to be the damage tank and threat tank of this expansion. However threat became no longer an issue, and paladins are not only the most durable but deal the most damage and threat of all the tanks, and bring sanctuary and other utilities. So not only do paladins do warriorâs jobs but better, they can do other tank class jobs and better and bring more utility.
While yes every tank is viable, paladins are head, shoulders, and well just about everything else standing above other tanks. So the logic of âProt Paladins are the only tanksâ isnât really far off the mark. It is close to the âVanilla Warriorâ experience of this expansion.
Blood dks can generate the most threat and be the tankiest tank if itemized well.
Warriors were still 2nd in TBC as prot paladins werenât even considered viable outside of tanking trash / Karazhan.
Warriors have one of the strongest external as an offtank with intervene.
And have one of the most broken dps/tank spec with their gladiator spec.
If you play to their strengths warriors can mitigate the most damage on some fights as their block is still the highest.
But sure their damage fall off pretty quick.
Tell me you donât play warrior without telling me you donât play it. Nobody plays gladiator spec and thatâs a ridiculous thing to bring up at any point.
Weâre not three weeks into WoTLK where gladiators were the norm because people could only do dungeons.
You got buffed, now you need a nerf.
I donât play ret, I didnât get buffed. Your assumption that a ret buff is a prot buff is just weird at this point.
Yes no ones play gladiator because itâs too squishy now, the problem is that spec still exist and it would be a buff to that spec since they refused to nerf that niche gameplay if they would buff warriors. And that spec does some pretty degen stuff we donât need to make it worse.
You can play another class, we knew prot paladins were gonna be strong in wotlk this isnât the first run of this show.
Why do people think AD is what makes Paladin tanks so good? If it ever procs on me I say it in raid like itâs a bad thing. Realistically I should never need it. Most times I donât eitherâŚ
Your class was buffed when two of your specs are already horrendously overtuned. Take the L and accept itâd be the best thing for the game if prot pally was nerfed.
Take the L and just stop playing warrior if you canât handle itâs current design.
Or youâre free to play retail if you prefer itâs tank balance.
Paladins were strong in wotlk and theyâll be strong for wotlk classic.
Even if they nerfed them the class would still get brough over a warrior.
So just accept your loss.
The game isnât gonna turn on itâs head because they did a minor buff to ret pally which they didnât want to do to start with and isnât gonna change a whole lot to be fair.
Oh is that your solution to everyone who is dealing with overtuned pallies?
âStop playing the class hurr durr letâs just get 50% paladin representation along all classesâ.
Youâre asinine.
Edit: Minor or not you didnât deserve it if the nerf isnât also deserved.
Edit #2: Fine, undo the ret buff and by your logic âYouâre free to play retail if you prefer its dps balanceâ.
My first solution is to stop whining and find a solution yourself to that problem because this isnât gonna change. So either find something else to play or deal with your choices. Because like I said even if they nerfed paladins, it wouldnât change anything for warriors. Blood dks and feral would still be brough before a warrior.
I donât care about the ret buff, they could not have done it. I donât play ret lol.
Grow up fool. Paladins were the first to start whining, and apparently it can change because it already has. Paladins started this but they for sure wonât be the ones to finish it.
Yep, you play the overtuned paladin specs so you have a biased opinion and are therefore irrelevant as youâre motivated by self-interest.
The nerf would be good for the game.
You donât need to deal with overtuned paladins. No one is forcing you to play with them.
Actually they are, since theyâre so overtuned people will outright demand the MT is always a prot paladin.
Itâs absolutely ridiculous the amount of paladins actually defending this.
A nerf is deserved.
Who are these people? Do you demand a MT paladin?
Now youâre just lying, feel free to comment no further since people can see you lying bold-faced.
What am I lying about? I asked a question.
Grow up fool. Anyone with any basic raiding experience in WoTLK classic will call you a fool. âWho are these people?â
Give me a break