Yep because a rogue switching specs from dps to dps is exactly the same as a priest switching specs from healing to shadow.
It’s pretty simple when all you do is dps.
Shocking there’s a tank/heal shortage.
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Some people are good at trolling and others aren’t. Guess which one you are.
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Imagine being this stupid and willfully ignoring:
Just because you have some low tier gotcha that ends up being moot because of:
I bet you got a whole 3 wrinkles on your brain there champ.
Enjoy playing rogue, stabbing stuff in the back in hard.
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Actually pretty funny ngl.
Got some scars on my wrists that prove that I am indeed, bad at dying 
I do.
Enjoy your 3 wrinkles.
Imagine having multiple points thrown back at you and all you can respond with is that lol.
What points? You have yet to refute that rogues only play one role and as such dual spec impacts them far less.
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Hmm… and? Yeah you agreed with my point rogues benefit less from dual spec, shockingly you a rogue is against it.
No duh… druids, warriors, priests, shamans, pallies benefit more from dual spec. They actually can do more than just dps.
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See this is where you’re getting hung up.
The idea that one benefits more from a QOL change over another is moot. It’s pointless. It’s irrelevant. Why? Because more than one type of content exists for end game. There is two. PvE and PvP. While rogues can not fill a tank or healer role like other classes can, you’re willfully ignoring that every class and spec has a pvp variant to their build, which would be optimal in every case, and atleast viable in most cases. Rogue falls into that category, where I do indeed need to respec if I want to go do a different form of content.
How much that varies depends on class, but dual spec doesn’t have some arbitrary requirement saying “Oh you can only dps, so no dual spec for you” thus this idea that some arbitrary gatekeeping of who benefits more from is it irrelevant, as everyone would have some sort of a benefit from having dual spec.
I have never said in any of these threads, ever, that dual spec is a negative change. I am quite fond of it actually and loved it from the start to finish of it’s lifespan in retail.
I am against dual spec because it’s a QOL change for the sake of a QOL change.
How much one benefits from it existing, or how much one is negatively impacted by it not existing is moot in the end when talking about dual spec as a whole.
Which is all you’re focused on.
You said it yourself when you said this:
Which was never a point I was making at all, yet you’re focused on it.
Really, if that’s the only point you’re trying to make that Rogues can only dps, then yeah man, thanks for joining the rest of us since 05 when everyone knew that Rogues can only dps. It took you 16 years, but damn, you’re finally here I guess.
On the topic of dual spec, benefit variations per player is moot as every player gets in some regard a benefit from it’s existence, those who want dual spec for gold farming literally have the entire range of professions to pull from for gold which doesn’t require talents, and those who want to do something else in terms of specs, just needs to respec like everyone else.
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You protest too much 
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Nope, I don’t want QOL changes for the sake of QOL changes, and I’ll be here till the end of TBC fighting against QOL changes for the sake of QOL changes.
Thanks adding exactly nothing to the conversation.
I understand your argument. But there’s way more problems with the game then duel spec. I would rather blizz fix the balance on the servers first, Then the horde bg problem. Duel spec is most likely not on their agenda. Especually with blizz going through the lawsuit and still firing people. I really doubt blizz has time to add a new feature and program duel spec for a game that never had it. Coding is not easy people.
And yet you can farm gold as either specs. Cool.
Yep, you are your guilds one single rogue per raid group. Congratulations. You probably sucked up to leadership to get the raiding spot. I like how you say you’re a “top parser” instead of a “top DPS” right? Because as we all know, having a high parse percentage doesn’t mean you’re top DPS, especially when it comes to classes like Rogue. The least desired class for raid groups in TBC.
Well that’s a great perspective, coming from a Rogue. 
Yep, look at my Parses from our most recent easy run Mag group that has six decked out healers and clears Mags every week with no effort. Anyone with half a brain knows what’s going on with those parses, more examples of a clueless Rogue talking about stuff they don’t understand, right? Love it, you don’t even understand the game or how parses work.
Yeah mate, I have fishing maxed out too and most fish even when cooked into the best food sell for near vendor prices thanks to the bots.
Do you have a point? There’s a ton of stuff in the game to farm. It’s all being farmed by bots. The prices of everything that can be farmed is dropping down to nothing.
Yeah, except I played the REAL Burning Crusade, right. I know how to make money when Blizzard enforces their TOS and actually bans bots and actually enforces region locks. Thanks for trying. I’m sorry that you’re not playing the real TBC and that you’re adapting to Blizzards mistakes.
Yep, I explain in detail why I log off after raids, because the 100g to respec isn’t worth it. That’s exactly why I’m broke. Thank you for understanding. If there’s no point in staying online to grind gold because I wouldn’t even make the gold to cover the god damned respec costs then… What precisely should I do mongoloid?
So you have to go back to Orgrimmar after raids, spend 50gold to respec, spend ten minutes fixing your bars, then repeat that again before your next raid?
No. You don’t. So yes, it’s much more effort for me to keep up with my character than it is for you. It’s not a difficult concept. It’s about as hard to understand as 2 + 2 = 4.
Again, every single gold farm in the game is heavily botted at the moment.
You. Completely. Missed. My. Point. You. Illiterate. Fool.
OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO RESPEC FOR PVP. Dear lord. You are insanely stupid. Try reading comprehension bud, the point I made was blatantly obvious.
You can still grind gold in your PVP spec. Go write out another pointless paragraph idiot.
Cool story, a brain dead rogue telling me to grind gold in Resto.
And yet I have professions. And yet… they don’t make me any gold because no one is buying BOEs at this point… AMAZING. Another Rogue that doesn’t understand the game.
He says, without explaining anything, as if we’re all mind readers, as if there’s a ton of healers and tanks everywhere, as if any group with a healer and tank can’t fill DPS spots within literally 15 seconds for literally ANY content because there’s about 20 DPS per Healer/Tank.
How am I coping with anything. You can grind gold in any of your specs. It’s why you don’t give a damn.
Your response to me is to use professions, essentially. Well I already do. They don’t make me gold. Your response will then be to get better professions, cool.
You’re the one coping you sack of feces. You’re the one ranting and raving IN SUPPORT OF BOTS.
I wouldn’t have ANY OF THE ISSUES I HAVE if Blizzard would just ENFORCE THEIR TOS.
You are supporting bots by behaving the way you’re behaving right now.
Key to parsing Empathy’s posts is to realize he will attempt to insult you for your intelligence in some way shape or form. He’ll also talk about parses or logs even if they have no relevance to the discussion. This is a browbeat, plain and simple.
This is usually found at the end of any given response he gives you. He assumes you’ve read the other portion of what he has written, but this doesn’t really matter because essentially his purpose is to browbeat you and call you stupid because you disagreed with him.
Incidentally, if he were capable of actually making a convincing argument, resorting to browbeating and insults would be unnecessary. However, their necessity indicates his reliance on them to convince aside from whatever intelligence he tries to promote.
He’ll also do a Pee-Wee back and forth if provoked, which can be helpful for bumping threads and keeping particular topics afloat for long periods of time.
Correct. All he knows how to do is mention his parses exist, implying this somehow makes him “good.”
Should also point out that the presence of bots means players are buying gold. Those bots aren’t just hoarding the gold for the sake of hoarding it–they sell it to players.
Those players use that gold to pay for what they can’t afford because they don’t want to farm for it.
Just repeating for effect:
Players who don’t want to farm gold will buy it.
And he’ll call you stupid for disagreeing rather than explaining anything intellectually.
You’re not. That’s his standard response when he has nothing left to say.
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When you get back from your forum ban let’s us know how your vacation went. 
I think he is actively trying to get banned so he has an excuse to play his weeb game.
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I like the part where he started bragging about parses not understanding how healer parses work. I expected a bunch of 99s from this parse lord.
Onto the discussion, dual spec could potentially benefit arenas and bg’s in general. People may be more willing to participate if they dont have to figure in 100g just to do it. Whether 100g is a big deal is subjective, but to a person that may play more casually, that respec cost may be a big factor discouraging them from participating.
I agree that healers/ tanks benefit more from dual spec. I had my hunter 70 week 2 because I knew how gimpy it is to farm gold in any efficient manner as a resto shaman. His respec is still like 5g because I’ve only had to respec at 70 and I raid/farm with the same spec
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Hybrids already do, but you can’t do that at the expense of primary role players.