https://clips.twitch.tv/TawdryHumblePepperoniHotPokket This is what happens when a rogue actually knows their class atm
Yes he has the PvE Raid trinket that removes counterplay lol
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Easiest solution is disable PvE trinkets so there’s actually counterplay.
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Cloak so he can’t lasso and duel for pally can’t heal.
like, dude doesn’t have earth ele out for conduit + wall but is that even gonna save him
playing into rogue as blue is suffering, so miserable feeling
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after he presses wall 10 more times or so he will have the required skill to not flop instantly
wall reduces damage by 40% dance and shadow increases it by 80%
he’d still get this kill lol
I laughed out loud. Shaman played it just about as well as he possibly could. That’s rogue for you though!
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whooosh10c
i cant tell if hes a really good player or sub is simply broken…both?
Maybe using a shaman as example was a poor choice, Tune in to his stream (Very entertaining streamer) and you will watch him 1 shot everything lol
Sub just needs its burst nerfed and its sustained buffed.
I’m generally not a fan of nerfing classes, but its burst window combined with control is too high. That being said, there needs to be compensation. Too many people don’t want classes to be nerfed. They want them to be unplayable, which is bitter and stupid.
Subs damage outside of dance is laughable, but their damage inside is indeed too high.
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Both, Subs really strong atm but the cherry on top is he managed to get insanely lucky, pugged a H castle from viewers for the first boss and got the insanely powerful PVE trinket with 10kish on demand damage.
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This.
I dont want to see rogues nerfed to the ground, But at this point the game is literally trinket or you die. Simply can’t have that much damage and control, whenever i see Rogue, Mage, in arena, i basically ignore the mage, i don’t even consider him a threat considering the rogue still exists.
This is the problem. And rogues like pikaboo (yes I know a very low percentile) go beyond highlighting the problem. In the right hands, there’s just not a class that’s going to do more.
Also, why does everyone say “you just want bfa again” as if the margins are either 30 minutes games or 30 second ones.
There’s absolutely a middle ground that can and has been met in the past.
Hey Debby! Glad you have stupid people input for this. Trinket is a 2 min cd and lasso is 30s. thanks for the input.
Pika is open about how broken rogues are.
He has several streams were he lol’s wondering why in the hell they’re leaving rogue this busted.
hating on BFA is just a meme at this point. this meta is trash
This is idiotic…
Your talking about a 100k arena played rogue with BIS trinket abusing the game for viewers…
This isn’t skill this is like Tyson in prime vrs Jones at 65…
Whats the challenge nothing…
The guy carries at a placement game levels GTFO
Bfa is just the most recent analogy for long, slow, dampening based metas. It’s a meme, but games took forever, and people hated it, and use it as a reference point for comparison.
Yeah, the meta is too fast, but two things:
Health pools are low and defensive conduits are in short supply. Yea damage will go up, but there have been a lot of top tier players that had beta access that confirmed it does slow down.
and (and more importantly)
People are overreacting when there haven’t really been big tuning changes yet, DESPITE them confirming PvP balance changes are coming.
While I understand there will be tuning as there always is, Blizzard is at a crossroads here. The expansion is three weeks old now and the hype is dying down, and if half the people playing dont enjoy the meta, they will just move on to other games. So while it is fair to expect the meta will change once we are all geared in a month or so, people wont stick around. So if they want to keep subs post new expansion hype, they have to do something.