I think the best LGBTQ representation is to just treat it, and those who identify as such, as normal. Blizzard has already started doing that with characters like the couple that NF encounter during the campaign. And that’s fine.
The problem I have with LGBTQ ideas proposed here, like rainbow flags, or parades or whatever, is that I don’t want real world stuff in WoW. I don’t want BLM stuff. I don’t want pro/anti Trump stuff. I don’t want Brexit stuff. I don’t want anything that relates to the real world’s politics. I think adding characters who are gay is fine though.
I don’t mind gay pride parades in the real world (I’ve even participated in one) and I don’t mind activism in the real world. But WoW is my escapist fantasy (and Destiny, and recently, Outriders) and I don’t want real world politics in here.
Sorry but no. I have no problems with anyone bumping uglies with anyone assuming they’re consenting adults. I genuinely don’t care. Whatever makes the largest possible amount of people happy is okay in my book.
The problem I have is the insistence that orientation is the entirety of one’s identity or personality, etc. It’s a part of everyone’s life, but if you define yourself based upon your orientation you’re severely limiting yourself imo.
For instance, Hammerlock and Wayneright (spelling?) In Borderlands 3 are a gay couple and there was an entire DLC about their wedding. It was great. I loved both of those characters and it felt like genuine writing not designed to fit a quota of some sort.
All the requests for xyz representation are essentially asking for a diversity quota to be implemented.
Also, I play a space goat that shoots lightning out of my hands. My favorite characters are the most fantastical ones usually and represent me in literally 0 ways and I think that’s great.
I would be perfectly fine if all romantic aspects were completely removed from wow regardless of orientation. I don’t think that it should happen, I just wish to illustrate that I’m not attempting to exclude any particular orientation.
I don’t mean to sound rude, so apologies if I do just know that is not the intent. Cheers
I find it weird to be shoehorning in all of these different orientations when romantic stuff is such a miniscule aspect of WoW. Orientation literally doesnt make a difference unless romance was a main focus. I don’t understand why we even need to know a characters orientation if there’s nothing romantic involved.
That’s the main hang up I have. I agree with your point of not wanting real life politics in game as well but yeah. Thoughts? Cheers.
I would have a problem with anybody wanting more romantic relationships/stories in this game. I don’t read romance novels for the very reason I find that type of storying telling boring as all heck.
So you know what, when you have a group of people who keep spamming the forum asking for that kind of stuff, I will think of them exactly like I do with the people who want player housing or more cosmetics as spammers.
My issue with it doesn’t even really have anything to do with the lgbtq+ community. I’m pro same sex couples in game and trans npcs whenever it doesn’t seem forced in a weird stereotyping cliché way but is just a normal person who is trans or happens to be homosexual.
I think I just generally don’t get society’s current obsession with shoving private things into everyone’s faces - regardless of what people’s gender or sexual orientation may be. I’m kinda oldschool when it comes to this. I think everyone should be able to love whomever they love and be with them and be themselves as long as it’s not harmful to others;
however I also think my sexual orientation and preferences and my exact identity aren’t anyone’s business unless they’re either in the inner circle or I’m getting to know them better or I’m interested in them. Whether someone in a pugged dungeon knows I’m female or not is whatever to me. If I get to know them better they’ll realize. If I did not identify as a woman that’d be the moment I tell them that.
Then with sexual orientation, it’s pretty much the same for me. Most people I come across in game don’t know my age, how I look, what music I like, what my ethnicity and nationality are… Why would it matter if they know who I love or might possibly be attracted to?
I’d completely get it if we had player profiles in WoW. In that case, sure, if you wanted to add sexual orientation, why not (though I still just think it doesn’t really matter for a video game).
Somebody yesterday wrote that people just assume that everyone in WoW is heterosexual, but I don’t think that’s true. I think most people, like me, just really do not think about others’ sexual orientation at all in-game.
It has never once occurred to me to wonder if someone is gay or not when they’re being horribly obnoxious. One does not have anything to do with the other and I wish people like the OP would stop trying to tie them together.
We used to be able to tell stories and play games without wondering what Mario’s sexual proclivities might be, or needing to know what Sonic’s chosen pronouns might be. Can we get back to that please… it was a whole lot less vulgar than is acceptable now.
Is your position that disagreeing with one of those troll proposals is the same as being homophobic or insert term of preference?
Considering you also posted this later in the thread:
Already done. No worries on that end - but it does get rather disheartening when you open a game-related post, and end up seeing 3/4 of the names hidden because you blocked every sexist/homophobic/racist comment someone made.
Like…ew.
You’re a good Panda so I ain’t tryna be mean but…No one cares.
I’m sure you read this a lot but I don’t think you really read the comments in most of these threads and either twist them to think we hate you or pick out ones that are blatantly homophobic, which I only see very few of.
I just wanna know why you guys need to constantly press it down our throats.
No one cares who you sleep with, that’s not us being homophobic, I just don’t care to hear about it.
That said, ya’ll need to stop acting like we’re on some vendetta to get you all out of here.
We’re sick of trolls and constant spam of this nonsense. Okay, cool you’re gay. Let’s go kill some stuff on the game now and be on about our day lmao. I said it once, will say it again.
Ban Talonel and you’ll probably see 80% of these troll threads gone.
I literally pay no attention to the NPCs if they’re not giving me a quest or rewarding me for completing one. They could be having wild orgies with all kinds of genders and species, and I probably wouldn’t even notice. What the NPCs do when they’re not interacting directly with me doesn’t affect my game play in the least.
OP the only line I draw is if you DEMAND someone to change their story and/or character to be changed just for change and not actually care about the characterization.
But maybe take the story (or stories) at face value, people make things all the time that aren’t always going to have what you like.
I understand the need to have someone like you on screen. But a good character, regardless of their ethnicity, gender, or religion, should be relatable no matter any circumstance.
No worries on that end - but it does get rather disheartening when you open a game-related post, and end up seeing 3/4 of the names hidden because you blocked every sexist/homophobic/racist comment someone made.