Well rejoice!
If kultirans, junkgnomes and void belves are the best that Blizzard forces itself to do for the alliance, then you will not be in conflict with this status!
For me, it feels more like that itâs the game that has a sickness, and it is related to bias.
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Probably krokul broken, tbh. And theyâre right. Avoid elves are asspulled cancer and that they were ever added is one of the many black marks against this garbage expansion.
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Jeeves was introduced by Northrend engineering.
Uhh, were you responding to me but forgot the quote or did you respond to me by accident? 
No biggie, iâm just wondering.
To be fair, thatâs a black mark against Legion too, cause despite being unlocked the right to unlock by purchasing BFA, itâs still has to be unlocked via by Legion content, not to mention, released before BFA started and still in legion content.
Well, itâs blizzardâs mistake to conclude that alliance wanted the blood elf model, not a faction that has political and military alignment with alliance!
So they give us blood elves from Silvermoon, who for some reason forgot that he hates the alliance because of Garithos, because that was the most pro-ally thing they could think of!
If someone in the alliance wanted to be a blood elf, he would just play in the horde, and wouldnât want a blood elf of the purple variety!
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idk about everything else in the op but I do agree with void elves > high elves. all i can see with adding high elves is another panda situation, the same races with the same appearance with different ideals being put on different sides. blizz already said pandas were a mistake in that regard, i donât know why helves wouldnât be either. void elves at the very least have blue skin and void junk to separate them, I canât see anything for high elves
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Majority of Alliance players are ungrateful just like children who cry when they donât get the toy they want for christmas.
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Not really. I switched to Horde because I knew Alliance would never get the races they were interested in. You can see the Blizzard developer bias all the way back to Cata, although the Allied races are the biggest red flag Iâve ever seen.
Out of the Allied races the Horde recieved, none were compromises, all were requested during their respective xpac.
Out of the allied races the Alliance recieved, only Dark Iron is the only one that was a long time request. Nothing else was. Everything else they recieved came across as a compromise or lazy last minute addition.
If you say that the Alliance canât have insert race because reasons. Blizzard are perfectly fine to change story or models to wedge them in when it comes to the Horde.
âOh the Zandalari would never help anyone they think they are better than the lesser races, oh wait they just joined because the writers decidedâ
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You know, the âKul Tirans are actually the Gilnean ARâ perspective is QUITE interesting. Culturally, Kul Tirans are a Gilnean offshoot and we can see the aesthetic similarities in aesthetics.
Then humans is the one left; Which could lend credence to the LF Human idea, or perhaps the other swerve possibility, Half Elves, which have been part of the concepts since War3 but never quite made it, yet now as recently as legion we had the Half Elven son of two iconic alliance characters having more spotlight.
As someone who wants High Elves, I do think Half Elves could be the superior choice in pretty much every way if done properly.
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Not really. The legion faction that is the relevant rep for avoid elves is literally a faction of broken draenei. But of course you donât unlock the ability to play a broken draenei, you unlock some made up nonsense that doesnât exist in the lore, thatâs by some vast leap of the imagination maybe slightly connected to them. Maybe? No. Itâs nonsense.
They only tied nonsense avoid elves to that legion faction, which thematically has nothing to do with them, as part of BFA content.
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To be frank, i rather have broken draenei then lightforged draenei. Cause at least they look different. Maybe have both where the Lightforged Draenei can be extra customization options for the regular draenei as an addition and the Broken Draenei can be a separate allied race.
As for void elves⊠eeehh⊠donât know how to feel about them honestly, their just there. 
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/sigh. Wrong.
The Horde didnât ask for Night Elves, which is literally what Nightborne are. Tyrande was born in Suramar, jfc.
We asked for Outland Magâhar. For people who complain âvoid elves are not what we wanted, we want the proper lore-appropriate High Elves, void elf were pulled out of nothing!â the Alliance sure doesnât seem to understand that butt-pulling a group of cross-dimensional time-travel orcs just so they could showcase Light fascists is NOT what we asked for.
We didnât ask for Zandalari during MoP. Weâve been asking for burly Forest/Frost trolls since vanilla. Also ogres. None of which we have.
Lazy last minute addition? You mean like âTauren but with moose horns!â You mean like completely mutilating the Nightborne toons so they look nothing like the NPCs, are badly slimmed-down Night Elves, females have jerky animations and no eyelids (even though their glows blink!) and the men look like Grandpa Simpson?
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I saw heaps of people wanting Nightborne during Legion. The fact an entire patch and zone was about their history and city and culture makes people want to play a race.
Outland MagâHar are virtually the same as Timetravel MagâHar, you met the Frostwolf clan, who have almost exactly the same traditions as the Outland Magâhar, the only difference is many of the clans joined the Iron Horde, something you can choose to roleplay, or not. May as well complain the Blackrock Orcs arenât exactly the ones from Blackrock depths.
Itâs as a futile argument as if Alliance got High Elves, but they part of Alleriaâs contingent on Argus, instead of Vareesas, itâs a weak and flimsy complaint.
Iâve seen people ask for both Zandalari and Forest Trolls. The fact we have MoP and Isle of Thunder shows they have more lore, and therefore probably more interest from the playerbase.
There is a tauren variant almost every xpac, it doesnât matter if you asked for Taunka or Yaungol someone would say they wanted Highmountain and Taunka/Yaungol are a lazy face swap/horn change, because they have a zone and city for themselves.
Basically in the end, Horde got what they wanted, you are just trying to split hairs here so you can look like got a special race of fat Orcs that appeared from nowhere and barely anyone plays.
Like the comparison is night and day here. It makes your bias blatant.
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It wasnât a mistake. It was on purpose. Because they had no intention of carbon copying the same exact race over to Alliance.
Except when they donât have any friends Horde side and donât like the Horde. I know quite a lot of people on three servers that are very happy with their purple Belfs on Alliance.
Iâm sorry youâre so angry about it. But not everyone is.
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I mean, the reason I even suggest that the Kul Tirans MAY be the GILNEAN AR is that there are several things that suggest it.
- Gennâs role on Kul Tiras is equivelant of Rokhanâs role on Zandalar.
- The Kul Tirans HUMAN ancestry and culture stems back to Gilnean sailors.
- Worgen arenât really a CULTURE or civilization, while all Worgen are certainly Gilnean; not all Gilneans are Worgen (which their upcoming heritage questline reinforces heavily).
- The Worgen also have ZERO positive relations with a single NPC race that shares their rigs; and the Kul Tirans donât share rigs with anyone but Ogres (so the RIG rule need not apply here).
And you are right. If it IS the SW Human AR that is the remaining one for the Alliance, it does free up possibilities a bit. Calia based undead are a possibility true, but so are Half Elves (or even full High Elves, considering their culture now heavily revolves Dalaran, the Alliance, and HUMAN culture). If the Worgen are the last Alliance CORE race to get an AR ⊠it really is just the NE Worgen that might make senseâŠ
Umm the Void Elves are former Blood Elves, thats virtually carbon copying a race. If you mean like, carbon copy the models? Then Nightborne already shows that Blizzard is fine with copying a race over then making certain changes to aesthetics and stances to make them more distinct. Blizzard simply chose not to.
Which to me is bizarre, since anyone whos played WoW any length of time knows of the Silver Covenant and how long theyâve been in the Alliance, even in Suramar. Itâs like giving the Horde Void Trolls instead of Zandalari or Forest Trolls.
I have no idea why you would actively shoot your own possible hype and subs/race changes/boosts in the foot for that. Itâs insane to me.
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Which is why they created Velfs and not Helfs. Thereâs literally no difference between Helfs and Belfs outside of eye color. Lore specifically states theyâre often mistaken for Belfs because of that. Thus⊠they aesthetically changed Belfs and we got Velfs. So you just proved my point.
Again⊠Helfs look exactly like Belfs. Thus, Velfs because theyâre different enough. Helfs would have been a carbon copy model.
Iâm not sure why people donât understand thisâŠ
But Iâm not continuing this debate. This isnât a Helf thread and Iâm not turning it into one.
You are another person who simply falls back on Ions âBlood Elves are pretty much High Elves argumentâ Even though we have the tooltips in game saying High Elves are High Elves. We have High Elves arguing with the Blood Elves at the Sunwell, fighting in the Argent Tournament, the Hilt of QuelâDelar, the Isle of Thunder etc etcâŠ
Whether you think they are a true race or not isnât the issue, itâs the fact that they, and the game, and the NPCâs recognize High Elves as a separate group joined with the Alliance through the Silver Covenant. Many reference them as QuelâDorei in-game and they are popular since theyâve been in the game for 9 years. Blame Blizzard for making the damn things.
But thatâs neither here nor there now. Kul Tiran is some sort of compromise? Void Elf is some sort of compromise? Lightforged is what? A lazy reskin that couldâve been a cosmetic tweak and it wouldnât have changed the story or lore of Argus at all since they are essentially âHolier Draeneiâ
The entire Alliance effort into allied races just reeks of low effort.
Point to the Horde compromise race.
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The latter. Apologies about that.
I wanted Velves since Alleria popped up, or those Shadowguard ethereals. Velves are a good compromise, considering Ethereals would be hard to design around.
I wanted the Space Marine Draenei.
I wanted the big Kul Tirans, so I could roll a sea-priest shaman, or a druid. Their lore is phenomenal, and their only âbadâ zone is Stormsong, mostly because itâs unfocused.
The mechagnomes are adorable bundles of cogs, with some of the most flavorful racials to date. They have unique, custom animations and a ton of customization options.
Just because some people asked for different, or more contrived things doesnât make the additions bad.
Why would Elves, and undead be the Human AR? And if it was a Gilnean allied race, you know. Perhaps we would have been making the boat for Genn, and not ANDUIN L WRYNN?
Night Elf Worgen make no sense. Why? Being a worgen is a worgen. Your base race doesnât change what you look like as a Worgen.
Sethrak are really the only allied race possibility for the Alliance, that are derived from the Worgen skeleton.
Sorry, but Game Director beats Forum Warrior any day of the week.
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