There will always be a bottom dps spec

It all comes down to it being reasonable. If you need a 50% buff to get in line with others its not really reasonable is it? Just as an example. Even a 20% buff to dps isnt reasonable.

Considering the game is balanced around the last patch of the expansion…

And that the tier set bonus is godlike…

And that there’s patch notes from the past showing the nerfs/adjustments…

There is more than enough dps to make sure bosses are dying so therefore it is perfectly reasonable.

So lets make you do 1 dps. Theres more than enough damage from everyone else to make sure bosses are dying therefore its perfectly reasonable, right?

Still classic, if they didnt rebalance the game in vanilla, why start now? Maybe, like with the chronoboon, we will get something before prepatch, but expecting them to rebalance classes in legacy content is pretty laughable, the playerbase would have to crater for it to be worth putting people on, the less they do to classic, the higher the ROI it has.

No 1 dps is a far stretch from what they are currently capable of. But the amount rets do put out is more than enough to clear current content.

They did in Wotlk… that was the point.

Im just pointing out that your argument is a bad argument.

Just because bosses die while a poor performer is present doesnt make it reasonable for that poor performer to be that poor.

Its not a bad argument at all considering the devs share the same view on it. Its just an argument that doesn’t agree with the notion that you deserve a buff so you don’t accept it.

Just because they are at the bottom of the meters doesn’t mean their performance is poor, it just means that out of all dps specs they are at the bottom which is perfectly natural.

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It’s like 7% DPS brah.

You’d still be at the bottom.

Sure thing…

The devs dont share the same view on it, they just dont want to do anything with classic. If they shared the same view then they wouldnt try to balance things within 5% of each other on retail.

Never said that a class at the bottom of the meters = poor performer. The difference is what matters which you guys dont want to address the difference. Not to mention the inconsistency with the design of Paladin

Why is it that Hammer of the Righteous stacks Holy Vengeance but Crusader Strike doesnt? That wouldnt even be that big of a buff.

I literally can’t take anything you say seriously after reading this. Retail is not classic lol. Retail has way more budget and is able to constantly throw dev time at class balance, Classic is a based off of one patch for the entire expansion.

Yes, retail isnt classic. But its the same company, same motto should continue through the company they just dont care about classic thats why they are basing it off of one patch for the entire expansion and saying “your sol even if your class is in a heavily nerfed state”.

They are two entirely different dev teams. Balance in classic has been the same since it started, we use the last patch of the expansion so there is no need to constantly adjust classes with nerfs and buffs.

Everyone playing classic has known this for years and it hasn’t stopped others from playing the class they love and enjoying it while being low on the meters. Rogues dealt with it in TBC and waited until T6 for their glaives and nobody cried about it.

If you enjoy plaing ret then play ret. If you want to top the meters reroll DK or Affliction simple as that.

They rebalanced in OG vanilla, gave every class a a talent tree revamp, so why didnt they do it in vanilla? Classic wow is always gonna be on the last balance patch, they dont even do the pserver thing where you keep the classes the same but do progressive itemization.

Sounds like you want them to rebalance wrath because it affects you now, but were fine where you were in classic, so it being the land of warriors was gucci.

They’re not entirely different. There’s a team focused on Classic but they’re part of the World of Warcraft team.

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It doesn’t affect me. I just don’t want a large portion of the player base to feel useless and required to reroll (coming from a Prot Paladin who Raid Leads).

So what? Its still the same company.

Doesnt make it good.

aka laziness

I dont know how that can be enjoyable unless you are oblivious to your surroundings.

What is there to enjoy? I like the animations, but other than that what is there to enjoy? I would rather build a protection dps spec at this point.

weeeeelllllll accccsssschhuuuuuuulllly

If their focus is on Classic and not Retail then my point still stands.

honk honk

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