So, how would they learn to tank then? People keep saying there is a lack of tanks and healers. You want to restrict it even more. Why not encourage people to do those roles? Mentor them, teach them. By giving them grief, all you do is make them not want to tank making it harder to get groups.
I am sure someone else has said something similar to that. Attitudes like OPs, made me give up on group content. All I heard was learn to play, get good. Delete your character. Quit playing, you are trash. So, I stopped tanking. I play by myself now.
What I am saying is, don’t be a jerk and chasing people away. You get more flies with honey than vinegar.
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OP is fundamentally misunderstanding the issue that new players who select the tanking role are having. The dungeons that new players are being thrown into are BFA dungeons, which are significantly harder than Deadmines or RfC.
Freehold was built with assumptions surrounding the players entering it, that they would be 110 and have solid dungeon experience. There are mechanics in BFA dungeons that new players simply cannot handle.
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Players: “How dare new tanks not know how to play the game, and not play a leveling dungeon like a +22!”
Also players: “Why is there a shortage of tanks?”
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Players being like let’s hurl abuse at tanks and then insert surprise pikachu face here when there’s no tanks queuing in LFD
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This thread is being reported for trolling. I stand with my views and my opinion.
Yes i see most people dont agree with me and to think about it feel like im wrong too but i still stand with my views that new players should know that particular dungeon first before tanking.
Its okay if you dont agree with me but i am not trolling. I just recently experienced an hour long dungeon with a novice tank and this is not the first time. Some say if you dont like new player tank go tank yourself but im leveling my rogue i cannot tank with rogue.
I get it people dont agree with me but i just want to tell my side of the story.
That is your right, just like it is mine to not take something a level 25 forum alt decides to post seriously.
That’s terrible op I’m so sorry this happened to you. Are you okay? If you need emotional support I’m here for you during this tough time.
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Please no. I’ll be a better DPS I promise ;-;
well i guess there never should of been no tanks then cause guess what everyone was new. dumbest thread i seen in awhile. just because you been playing forever some people haven’t so deal with it or quit playing multiplayer online games and go to single player games.
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So I see you’re entirely for DPS/healers pulling for slow poke tanks. Since you know : it’s ok to annoy others sometimes.
XP/hour is better fast clearing bosses for the end of dungeon bonus exp, than full clearing trash. OP is not wrong that pulling everything is a detriment.
Shame on you, OP. People like you are why I wouldn’t tank for the longest time.
It’s bad enough to have to know routes and pulls and keep myself alive, watch the healer mana, make sure something doesn’t get loose and eat a DPS, face the boss away, move out of stuff, soak stuff, mind my cooldowns, keeping moving in the right direction, move not too fast, move not too slow, respond to anything in chat……
Despite being prepared, learning and experience take time.
And it is quite possible you had a bad tank and not just a new tank if they weren’t communicating or taking direction or advice……you did give advice, right?
I will occasionally tank baby keys for pugs, now I’m more comfortable but I won’t do it with higher levels.
I get your frustration but that’s all I see is this hyperbole of “I’m not spending all my time with someone that doesn’t know what they are doing”. I get frustrated too and then I remember when I started and chill out.
I took everyone’s advice…LEARN TO TANK WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND YOUR GUILD MATES. And that’s where you will find me.
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IMO new players should not be starting with BFA dungeons. There are way too many mechanics for a first time player to deal with and too many classes dont have their cc abilities yet so mobs end up wiping the group. I went through that in the first Horde BFA dungeon. Either give all classes their utilities earlier or nerf the dungeons.
How are new players supposed to know a dungeon before doing a dungeon?
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I disagree with not letting newbies tank at all but I totally understand your frustration at an hour + dungeon run that isn’t something insane like wailing caverns or blackrock depths. Bfa dungeons despite having some mechanical complexity to them that older dungeons lack, are all relatively straightforward in pathing when not going for % in m+ so to see people randomly wander around would defs make me frustrated especially if they’re also ignoring me when i suggest paths or how to deal with certain mechanics.
How is it possible that they wait for the DPS to pull, yet pull everything?
Also Waycrest Manor is one of the more maze-like dungeons out there.
You had to right? Freedom fighter?
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Waycrest is actually pretty linear. There’s only a single door open in the entrance hall forcing you to go a certain way. Basement doesn’t open until all bosses are dead upstairs and there’s 2 basement entries, depending on which boss you tackle last (witches or kitchen).
Melee dps.
Actually that’s probably a better way to “learn tanking” is to first just melee dps.
That should get you accustomed to the dungeons while still learning how to sit in the melee pile. Then you can more easily graduate to tanking from there.
The wisest words I’ve ever read on this forum.
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Now go say them in any of the tank threads. Apparently, it’s no ok to be annoyed if you tank.
Thats why people show up to a M8 and say “this is my first time tanking” after you’ve started the timer?