I’ll give you an instance of cooperation in everything you listed.
Come on man, the sunwell. The draenei literally purified it and gave it back to the blood elves. That’s cooperation.
Wrath gate. You literally had an orc and a human fighting undead side by side and showing mutual respect. Sure it ended badly, but the horde and alliance were still cooperating.
Thrall was the main character. Everything the horde and alliance did for thrall was cooperation.
remember that time the horde and alliance worked together to depose Garrosh? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Literally the first scene of the expansion is the horde and alliance fighting the iron horde. Are you serious with this?
We literally created faction neutral order halls, and fought that initial losing battle to open the expansion. We cooperated while killing that huge Eredar boss. It’s like you’re not even trying.
And now… in the FACTION WAR expansion, we cooperated to take down Azshara. We’ve cooperated in literally every expansion.
Seriously dude? And here I thought we were going to have a nice talk about whether historical warrior culture norms were appropriate parallels for this game, but instead you just decide to be a dick.
You’re…much less of a person than I initially thought you were. Shame.
Yes but it wasnt alliance and horde but the shattered offensive which came after the aldor and scryer storyline come up.
The entiee ICC questline started with how horde attacked alliance lines and slaughtered them from behind. Then you also had battle for udnercity afterwards which clearly made the rivality crystal clear.
Not really thye just didnt slaughtered each other but animosity was there as the wow intro stated.
Remeber that half the alliance also wanted horde to be dismantled?
And bow wod is all about how the draebei slaughtered the draenor orcs which is what you have. It seems thst you cab only make an argument when you ignore the ending and 75% of the lore. Grats
no… he asked for times when there was cooperation. I freely admitted that things didn’t necessarily end well. But there was still cooperation. Not my fault you ignored what the argument is about, and made up your own straw man. gratz.
Literally all of those factions already existed before and were the ones whom fought legion. Horde and alliance stopped fightin together when alliance saw horde as traitors in their cutscene and the entire hrode and ally plot was about skirmishing in the broken isles and elves dealing woth suramar at a not very good cooperation.
And then we slaughtered the enemy faction in Trial of the Crusader.
Then we slaughtered the enemy faction in ICC.
Then we slaughtered the enemy faction skirmishing around Icecrown.
Gameplay mechanic, as well as a handful of individuals of the opposite faction occupying neutral roles during those brief periods of time. This has never had any impact on the relationship between factions at all.
Also a gameplay mechanic. Like Harper said in all actuality individual factions are attributed to these conflicts. We, the Horde players, did not actually participate in Siege. Regardless, we start out at war in MoP. We fight around the entire continent the entire time we’re on it. When Garrosh falls the Alliance almost decimated the Horde while they were weak.
As we then go on to wage war once again around the entire planet with large scale warfare taking place in Ashran…
As we once again, waged war over territory across the entirety of the Broken Isles and Azeroth at large…
Cooperating to see things end up in ruins is pretty much the major reason there is faction tension. Which you ignored. I mean relax, they are not making cross faction play happens but its still funny to laugh about people.
you asked for moments of cooperation. you did not specify that they needed to end with peace. you said there was no cooperation. that has been proven false.
I repeat, the Lore is made up and has always taken a backseat to gameplay. How anybody can take it seriously is beyond me. If you want a real life example about enemies becoming friends, then take the U.S. and Japan. Japan terribly mistreated POWs, and we eventually dropped the A-bomb to end the war. We occupied Japan post-war, but then years later Japan is now an ally.
you ignoring what the argument is about is whats really funny. I ignored nothing. As I stated, i freely admitted that the instances of cooperation ended badly. but to deny the cooperation ever happened is asinine.
Who are you and what are you even responding to? Your replies don’t make sense at a fundamental, communication level. Like what are you even trying to say? Stop replying to my posts.
How you can make an argument that 1%, that number being generous, of groups within both factions temporarily working together to combat an existential threat somehow ceasing tensions for the remaining 99% of both factions is inane.
I laughed at the living contradiction that you have just write. Btw it is a public forum if you dont want to read just don’t. Not a hard concept for most people but well to each their own.
I like the faction war. If nothing else it gives me two games to play, Aliiance WoW and Horde WoW. Havig a “mercenary” mode in PvP might be acceptable, although it would likely be abused.
Allowing cross faction PVE cooperation would likely cause me to stop playing retail entirely. Which would save me money since I’d likely get rid of two of my three accounts.
1%? In legion, we literally planned our initial assault on the burning legion around each other. Varian arguably died because the planned retreat got screwed up by the horde lines breaking, and them saving their own bacon. That’s not two fringe horde and alliance groups working together, thats the literal horde and alliance.
Same thing at the beginning of WoD. The Horde and Alliance worked together to drive the iron horde back through the dark portal. Not fringe groups. The horde and the alliance.
No, the instances of cooperation don’t end well. but saying they dont happen is again… asinine.