The only argument in favor of RDF is from people who have trouble finding dungeon groups. Sympathetic. But guess what? Blizzard is working on and beta testing changes to the LFG tab to solve exactly this problem.
So what other problem is there? MOST dungeons are easy to get to. And ones that are difficult aren’t necessary. Horde don’t need to do Gnomeragon or Stockades. Alliance don’t need to do SFK or RFK. They have substitutes.
The only exception is SM for alliance. Which is a pretty important dungeon but very annoying to get to. But this is a problem with ONE dungeon. Specific problems require surgical fixes. Not blanket system changes.
The arguments against RDF are numerous. Supporters of RDF have no solution for our problems with the system, so they have to deny their existence and validity.
“it doesn’t effect you.”
Yes it does.
“It doesn’t hurt socialization.”
I’m TELLING you it hurt my socialization experience.
“It doesn’t break immersion.”
…teleporting you in the middle of a quest to a completely new location doesn’t break immersion?
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Well, you have clearly created this topic with zero intention to actually discuss the matter, so I guess I’m just here to sit back and watch the fireworks
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BG queue from anywhere.
bam, your entire argument is dead.
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Link to blue post confirming this not just blowing smoke? “we plan to…” isn’t evidence of active work.
It doesn’t, socialization cannot be forced and is up to the player. If you find RDF less sociable that’s a you problem not an RDF one.
This is a you problem, what makes these players different from an traditionally formed group? Different server? does that make them not people worth talking too?
Summoning stones do this already, what’s the difference? the travel?
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Is there anything left to discuss about pros and cons of Dungeon Finder that hasn’t already been discussed in countless other threads?
If there are some new perspectives to be had, then sure, but all these rehashes of the same conversation are getting rather dull, imo.
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I think there is a valid argument for RDF during two times.
- Leveling
- Playing on a very low pop server
Outside of that im fine with the LFG tool.
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It seems anti blizzard to waste time and resources revamping a new system when they can use an old one that works. Someone let bobby know they’re wasting money he’ll be mad.
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You aren’t wrong, I have saved some stock replies at this point.
We’re at the point where either something definitive needs to happen or things will either continue on at this magnitude or become like the slime cat post in the CC, upkept but only by like 2 people.
“no plans at this time” was a BAD choice of phrase for the blue post it came from. Gave hardliners hope while also giving more fuel to the opposition as well. When it’s not even a real answer.
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Maybe Blizzard just gets off on the chaos of the forumgoers going at each other like children on a playground
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Blizz didn’t want players to stay in the cities, well with this new LFG tool all I’m doing is staying in the cities, having to read and compete with others in the LFG spam.
I should be out questing, or farming.
Instead I have to watch chat or type in chat.
RDF lets me go out into the world more. I sit in que and am then able to quest or farm easy enough till it pops.
It was the same dam thing on private servers but they were worse as they were able to have way more player numbers per server than what Blizz is able to do.
Until the private servers decided to give players RDF coz not putting it in just didn’t work well.
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This is probably a valid statement, I know I read things here almost entirely for entertainment value. Just a group of devs watching the forums and occasionally going
“hey watch this blue post”
or
“wanna take bets on when this devolves into X?”
would be funny and not at all surprising if true lmao.
ok, how does queueing for pvp not fall under any of these things? I’m just kind of curious why it is for pve but when it comes to pvp it’s not the same? This is classic double standard BS. I could be queueing up for a heroic for an Item that could take between 1-100+ runs tp get an item. Whereas doing BG’s, I just need to get the honor/marks. You get the item far more easily compared to pve. PvE is rng related, pvp isn’t.
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…I’m not hearing an argument.
Why would you? Your OP just shoots down any chance at an argument off the bat and then hoists up your own opinions as if they’re impenetrable walls of facts. Arguing with people like you is just a waste of time and effort
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Thats why pvp gear was called “welfare epics” since TBC originally came out
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Don’t worry, in my thread, he also claims RDF creates more loading screens. I am surprised he hasn’t posted that here.
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It’s a dangerous world. One might step in the wrong place and find that they are beset by a raid of Horde trying to seek honor!
Buddy I asked for a reason to implement RDF. What PROBLEM is it solving that can’t be solved another way?
Don’t just deny peoples experience with RDF. If a player says they don’t like RDF then they don’t like RDF dude…Make it better.
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There is reasons to support rdf there is no reason not to support it. You have to understand there are way more people playing wow classic than there ever was playing original wrath. Have fun paying to stand in line at the dmv.