Yes, I believe that’s true. I have occasionally said that the pop problems on pve and pvp realms have different causes and require different solutions. The pop problems of faction imbalance on pvp servers is a much stickier problem to deal with.
My apologies - completely missed the mark that moongaurd / farstriders was an RP server.
Historically - RP servers have not followed similar trends to other non-RP servers.
Often they even have completely unique economies you won’t find anywhere else.
My comments were not in reference to RP servers.
For sure, but lets be real here, it was so obvious horde would be the majority on pvp servers.
This was to be expected and if people didnt realize horde would be the majority in TBC with literally better pvp and pve racials in a version of a game we all min/max then they were def short sighted.
Blizzard would of needed to give an incentive to play Alliance or buff racials and nerf horde racials because once again the majority of players min/max.
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Yes, I agree. I wish that the pvp and pve population problems were discussed separately. I don’t get involved in the pvp part of the discussion since I haven’t played on a pvp server since trying it out in vanilla. And then I never got an alt higher than level 30 before I realized it wasn’t for me.
faerlina was one of the last healthy pvp servers but all the alliance ran away to benediction for some reason at around 40/60 split and now it’s 95%+ horde. Like what was the point. It’s not like they xferred to benediction for the pvp since it’s also heavily alliance dominated.
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grobb might be an exception. horde have nowhere to go if they want RPPVP. they actually value their community, unlike every other server.
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This is such a silly thing to say.
You make your community wherever you are or go.
It is entirely up to you as a player to create your community, im not sure why anyone would assume you cant have a community on a larger server, it literally makes no sense.
Sorry but the people on mega servers also have a community.
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Yes, but it’s smaller. On medium or small servers there’s a lively pug and cross guild community. On Bloodsail most of us who pugged often knew each other and became friends. On Atiesh almost no one remembers who they pugged with and aren’t friends. There are just so many people pugging that we’re all interchangable. Neither is good or bad but I prefer a server that is large enough to find pugs but not so large that you become lost in the server outside of your guild.
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100% not true.
If you had a pool of 1500 players to make a community out of VS a pool of 21,000 players wouldnt it stand to reason you could make a bigger community out of more players available?
The #1 resource in a progression style game is the players and nothing else.
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Or specifically, I am not on a 20k server because I want to be thought of as a person not a resource.
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When youre on a 64% Alliance server and you have over 7k players you really dont get to claim high ground here…
You have enough “resources” to do stuff.
i’m on benediction. it might as well have random dungeon finder. you rarely even see the same people when there are 20k players on your faction. i get zero sense of community. i knew that when i transferred, i wanted efficient groups. one day you are on layer 1 the next you are on layer 3, which are practically their own servers and entirely different groups of people.
compare that to grobb which has community events. and rp players that want to interact with the community vs. play with randoms for more efficient loot/resources/whatever. its completely different. there are certainly degrees of “community” but if you don’t see the difference in the one classic RP server and a mega server full of transfers, mostly looking for a more efficient experience i don’t know what to tell you.
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You miss my point. No one here acts like we are that.
People remember you day to day, good and bad. It’s not 3x the difficulty to stand out.
Ninja? The server will know.
Heck, I can whisper any random person about anything, and they have the decency and time to respond. Every time. Can people on Bene say the same?
No, because they are flooded beyond the point that is actually required.
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Not true at all in my opinion.
Layers dont dictate whos in the chat channels for the actual server.
You can still real ID and add friends on any layer.
There is a server discord along with a faction section for everything, you can literally pug with the same group of people every week or join the same gdkps every week.
The community is out there, its up to you to be a part of it.
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I suppose it’s possible if you work at it but a smaller servers it just happens. I regularly pugged with the some of the same people on BB. I remembered them and they remembered me, over time. When we were chatting about something in chat I remembered that I pugged with them. Our relationship expanded and grew over time. I like atiesh but it’s different. I almost never pug with the same people. I go to lfg, find a group, and it’s almost always people I’ve never pugged with before. Usually I don’t remember them and they don’t remember me. As the server gets bigger and bigger less and less relationships develop in a natural way. Individuals get lost in the crowd.
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Not true at all.
A ninja will have SS of it all over the Bene discord.
The community is all over the discord, i swear its like you see the player sizes of the server and all of a sudden youre afraid to be a part of a community…
Your server isnt small, it has over 7100 Alliance.
ha, even whitemane won’t see people caring about ninjas. theres just too many people. not a bad thing, i like getting groups and selling auctions in moments. its a different flavor of game. just because both servers have chat channels and the ability to add to friends list does not mean both have thriving communities.
again, if you don’t see the difference in the one classic RP server and a mega server full of transfers, mostly looking for a more efficient experience i don’t know what to tell you.
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Where did I ever say it was small? It isn’t.
Grobb is great and thriving. I can LFG anything I want.
AH has 50,000 auctions and great prices.
I’m asking you to figure out the major difference between 20k and 7k.
You legitimately can remember 20,000 people you’ve played with? Grow enough community out of that surplus? How do you sort your way through all the guilds to find the worthwhile ones?
Just seems like 13,000 more people than actually provide benefit, if a server at 7k is already active enough to do everything. So what do those 13k people honestly do for you, besides pad your IFPro parse?
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Ofc Whitemane has saw Ninjas lmfao, they all got blasted on the discord.
You were all strangers at one point, what an odd thing to say, they were strangers until they werent then they became a prt of your community.
Do you ignore a new neighbor who moves in across the street because their a stranger?
I cant help if none of you know how to make friends.
Also lets debunk this whole notion of community and mega servers.
Grobb as of 6/2/21 had 806 Alliance on it.
Grobb then grew on 7/20/21 to 6,686 Alliance, almost at its peak players, which you now consider to be the “community” and its such an amazing “community”.
It grew almost 6,000 players in about 7 weeks and then ALL of those STRANGERS are now your "community.
Its almost as if you can grow a community no matter how many strangers their are…
Do you not understand that IFPro builds from raid logs and arena only?
OF COURSE numbers bottom out at the begging of xpac when people are leveling.
So let me help you out and find the LAST WEEK OF VANILLA:
2883 Alliance May 10 2021.
High of 4750 in March 2020.
Big ol yikes on this one.
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