There’s alot of bad players in classic these days

Locks basically life tapping themselves to death, classes with buffs not buffing others in dungeons, mages not even offering water to healers/other casters in group content.

PvP just as bad. I’ve been “ganked” by some atrocious people. Like I ask myself what were they thinking. Conversely people on my side doing the most braindead stuff. It’s like the player base took this huge step back in 2024

oh It’s you again complaining about life tap on locks, seriously get help, get good or just uninstall and stop being a liability in wow classic, you’re the type of player that belongs in garbage retail or minecraft

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they’re retail players :expressionless:

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That’s just wow overall. Classic Wow just highlights bad play more so than retail because it does not yet have all the training wheels installed to make terrible players appear competent.

Be thankful they’re using quite a few TBC Ui changes otherwise their play would be even worse.

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you’re so right :expressionless: like still being in combat for 5 seconds after a pvp kill. ridiculous.

yup, the forced combat state is SUPER tilting because a guy needs to dink / eat sometimes.

OP, I just wanted to let you know that you’re good enough, you’re smart enough, and doggone it…people like you!

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Yeah that’s what happens when people boost or dungeon their way to 60.
They think watching a few tutorials teaches them how to play the class.

Those tutorials are usually bad and best case scenario gives you the basics for your class.
USE STUNS AS A ROGUE
STANCE DANCE AS A WARRIOR TO DISARM PEOPLE
USE FEARS AS A WARLOCK

You are showing both our ages here

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I’ll let you in on a secret, there always were.

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Ngl, healing pugs with bad players is kind of fun. Adds a layer of excitement and challenge to a typical easy dungeon and healing as a balance/resto I don’t have to rez them so they learn pretty quickly.

Classic players have always been worse than retail players skillwise and generally. My friends and I regularly say “I didn’t think my ideas of what a bad wow player is, could be any lower”

<— was a retail player consistently TBC->legion

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I promise you, however bad you/they think a bad wow player is, it’s far far worse than that.

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guilty bad player here

im self aware

this has only strengthened my resolve to stay bad bc you didn’t ask me nicely to get better

nothing wrong with that.

just don’t be the delusional guy standing in every color of fire while yelling at everyone else for being bad.

some of my favorite people i’ve raided with weren’t even good, they were just nice/cool people so everyone was more tolerant of mistakes.

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Its like now cata series wow all over again.

Watch all the retailers not know what to do.

and some retailers are going…

Umm, we ran a dh in retail. we got a 2 button rotation down cold!

Or retailers are going when does this dungeon boss drop some crap on the floor we have to clear? Never? okay.

see as much as I rant on helya from legion…seeing 2-3 dudes die instantly to water holes can have morbid comedic value. the first time in a run anyway. 4 tries later…now that crap is irksome.

Now the no buff rants…I’d have that mana starvation and/or material costs.

less mana, less healz or dps. And you get ranted on for that. and for group casts with items I know from tbcc I wasn’t buying stacks of items to cast buffs till I was better off game financially.

Its only X silver. goes random dude in the bg.

Really, only x silver? trade me that since its only x silver.

Crickets…Crusader was free, I could give that no issue. Burning off 10’s of items for kings buff for one BG…I am not that charitable.

There’s been bad players in WoW since 2004.

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and if they returned, they are older now.

I know I log in some nights tired as hell. I envy people who log in fresh and this can be ther focus.

I log in after a long day of work and outside work stuff, and I am over 50.

My rotations may not be optimal due to lack of skill. Its just I am too tired to even care about pretending to bring the A game lol.

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gaslighting :expressionless:

This is actually good news. If there were no bad players, it would mean WoW had been largely abandoned, since the overwhelming fraction of possible players are bad.