I didn’t play through WoD, thankfully.
But I am a bit confused as to how this AU works, like, is there an AU Azeroth? Where no orc ever stepped foot upon?
Is there an AU Well of Eternity? Is there an AU Legion? AU Titans?
HELP ME
In theory yes, there is are an unlimited number of AU Azeroth’s and if one of these AU Azeroth’s exists in the same universe as AU Draenor, the Orcs never set foot on it. We don’t know what else changed because there were enough odd differences between AU Draenor and our Draenor that it’s not safe to assume anything.
It’s your basic “alternate timeline” situation out of science fiction, except instead of marking a single point for divergence and extrapolating from there, the writers just diverged the history of AU Draenor and MU Draenor in any way they thought would be fun.
You want to be confused, try to wrap your mind around the “There is only one Legion.” You see, there are potentially infinite alternate timelines, but there is only one Legion. Somehow.
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I heard that, but it sounds stupid. Like, does that mean there’s only one set of Titans? Why didn’t the Legion invade another AU Azeroth with less defenses then.
Oh yeah, it’s mind bogglingly dumb if you spend more than 10 minutes thinking about. The phrase “don’t examine every blade of grass” was introduced during a short story that lead up to WoD, and it’s basically just the developers saying, “cut us some slack, writing is hard.”
My favorite conclusion from “one legion” is that the Mannoroth that got his head split by AU Grom has to have been the same Mannoroth that got his head split by MU Grom. How do you figure that conversation went?
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I think the first time I quit the game was the start of WoD because it was one of the dumbest things I had ever heard.
We are going to an AU Draenor, back in time, but somehow also at the same time the AU Draenor Horde is building a portal to our Azeroth, not an AU Azeroth.
It just sounded like such a completely insanely bad and ridiculous plot line… Pretty sure Blizzard just wanted to show how Draenor looked or whatever before it became Outland and then just began coming up with the ham-fisted story from there.
Gameplay was fun tho…
THere isnt a AU azeroth, all the AU azeroths are dead and Only our azeroth is special.
Way back in Vanilla Chromie when she was operatring in an Inn in Andorhal told you that she was watching thousands of alternate timelines.
Garoosh went back into Draenor’s past, changed a major event and thus spun off an alternate timeline for Draenor. We have absolutely no involvement or knowledge of any corresponding Azeroth, since that portal was linked back to present day Main Azeroth, not an alternate. for all we know there was no Azeroth there for any of a dozen reasons that are not going to be explored.
Probably like this…
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AU Draenor was already an AU before garrosh arrived.
Noticeable examples as to why include Garrosh never being born and Ner’zhuls mate still being alive.
Flashpoint shock. The timewave impact of a major change can extend before the event as well as after. An idea that was given life in the Flash animated movie of the same name. This is why Federation Starships had already changed appearance before the attak on the Kelvin.
Don’t think about it. We have an alternate Draenor and that’s it.
Yeah that was not the case here. While scanning different AU’s, Kairoz found one where Garrosh was never born and chose that one to send Garrosh to.
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Medivh calls AUs illusions which is what Ny’alotha and the Visions of N’Zoth are called…
AUs are no different from Ny’alotha aside from origin(one might think at least).
Everything that could be, couldn’t be, has and will ever happen. Like grains of sand in an hour glass.
Nozdormu really has his work cut out for him, to span across seemingly infinite capabilities throughout history.
The only thing that is static is that the Bronze Dragonflight, the Titans, the Old Gods and the Burning Legion. They exist in the past, present and future, simultaneously.
From the wiki:
"Once an event happens, it cannot be changed. These events and choices, made up of all creatures and forces in the cosmos, join together like a river, sharing the same reality. Different choices and different possibilities naturally spin off the river of time like small creeks and estuaries, ebbing and flowing for a while. If these shades of what could have been are left alone, they will eventually dissipate into nothing. If efforts are made to preserve them (or alter them), they can indeed remain in existence indefinitely. They can even be made to feed back into the main river—dead creatures can seemingly “live again,” and the past (or future) may literally come back to haunt you. This is not a natural phenomenon, and the inhabitants of the main timeway will often find these experiences to be quite alarming.
But the only timeway that has a permanent effect on the cosmos is the main timeway. Creatures like the bronze dragons, who have command of temporal magic, can see all the countless tributaries of alternate universes and timelines, and they can even move back and forth along the stream to observe the past and the future.
If that main river is disrupted, it could spell doom and disaster. All life on Azeroth depends on time to flow ever forward. Without the surety that the sun will rise and set each day, the seasons would not pass, the cycle of life would become meaningless, and all living creatures would eventually die from being unable to sustain themselves. It is the most sacred mission of the bronze dragonflight to keep that from happening."
Basically there is only one true universe. Any alternate timeline created by time travel shenanigans is a temporary ripple that will eventually cease to exist. That’s why there’s only one Legion.
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Basically, it’s like this. AU Draenor is not (Exactly) an Alternate Timeline.
Kairoz actually CREATED AU Draenor by studying the Timeless Isle and learning how to reproduce the Temporal Anomaly that created the Timeless Isle.
Kairoz Sent Garrosh Back in time in order to change the events (I mean, he had to since there was no “present day” Draenor). Doing this created AU actually IN “our” Universe. It’s actually a Created fixed point in the universe that sort of exists in the now empty spot that OU Draenor use to exist in before it was basically sucked into the Twisting Nether. Sort of a Clone of Draenor 35 years ago, replacing the Draenor of our Universe.
Actually the AUs as noted in the Chronicle are shades of what could have been. Ny’alotha itself(along with the Horrific Visions) is a shade of what could have been and N’Zoth had the audacity to physically bring himself there which made it easier to Reoriginate him!
My understanding of the case is that there can be many mortal realms (or alternate timeline or universe), but not cosmic forces realm (like the Twisting Nether or Shadowland).
Old gods are not in our realm, they are in a cosmic force realm, they cant get in. They create avatars and other creature on enter these realms and to do their things.
In game, yes and no, most of them are like bubbles of water foam when a wave is made, loads of them appear, but all are temporary and will eventually pop and disappear back into the water.
A few like AU Draenor in WoD are just lasting longer because a Bronze Dragon like Kairoz used a unique method to sustain it longer, hence the Honorbound scenario.
Out of game, two factors might come into play here, this:
and probably to throw the more creative fans like Fanfiction writers, Rpers, and other such individuals a bone for keeping with WoW all this time, and for not leaving due to lore conflicts and such.
I think you are confusing Old Gods and Void Lords. Old Gods, like N’zoth are “born” from the void but are fully formed in the physical plane (or great dark beyond).
Void Lords are the entities that created the Old Gods, hoping to corrupt a baby titan.