The water elemental removing is extremely concerning - Do you never learn?

LOL… good try… the truth isn’t a “bizarre claim”. Your refusal to accept or even consider it puts the burden of truth directly on your shoulders.

Your very strong suggestion that I am Incredibly wrong also puts the burden of proof on you.

Perhaps you should go beyond your memory, and look for the truth.

BTW: you are correct that there is a whole world outside the US. But since we are both residents of the US… I re-emphasize my statements.

Give it up… you don’t have any further to go, until you are willing to do your own fact finding.

you really do like inventing stories, don’t you? :stuck_out_tongue:

first you claim mages had 4 elementals, and now you want to pretend that I’m American?

  • I’m very much Australian.
  • Mages never had 4 elementals.
  • Shamans have always existed.
  • You’re a terrible troll.
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Sorry mate, based on your posts, I figured you had to be from the US because of your belief that you are always right, and your memory has no errors in it.

My background pegs that attitude to USA.

-Mages had 4 elementals when wow was fun.
-There was a time when Shaman were only Horde. They didn’t exist for the Alliance. Shaman were totem casters and had no elementals at all whey wow was fun.

-Very sad, I would have expected better from an Australian than one who doesn’t have the thinking process capabilities to discuss a subject without reverting to name calling.

Really, a “terrible troll”. Come on you can do better than that… Do your research!

water elemental is more iconic for mages than a friggen wizard hat. the first warcraft that was their ultimate ability, a water elemental (vs the horde warlock demon).

absolute joke they removed it.

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counterpoint, every class having a pet that isn’t warlock or hunters is dumb, I dont want shadow priest pets, I don’t want mage pets, I don’t want elemental shaman pets, I want to cast spells. Maybe just me, just my two cents

wot.

bc sl/sl was absolutely dominant on locks until late s3 into s4 when gear started overwhelming it…

I’ve played this mage since January of 2005, and the only elemental we ever had was the water elemental that was added in The Burning Crusade. I don’t know what kind of Bloodthistle you’re taking, but stop making things up.

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My man gets it. If water elemental is so important to all these mages, they should be celebrating, since now it’s getting more play than it’s evet seen since MoP.

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I think I see it more now with it being tied to a cooldown. So I don’t mind personally.

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Then I suggest you recheck your facts just like “Nobully” needs to recheck…

Playing since 2005? Perhaps you memory has lost some data.

Our facts are fine.

There’s a reason why you can’t prove your silly claims.

yep.
congrats on admitting you were wrong about one thing.
now you just need to get brave and own your other mistakes.
i believe in you.
you can do it.

it’s not name calling.
it’s an observation.
you’re quite literally trolling with your fake “facts”.

I don’t need to.
The burden of proof is on you.
You’re the one making the silly claims.
I’m not going to waste time trying “research” something which never happened.

Hey, you should totally research that time people went walking on the sun!! :crazy_face:

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Literally no one is talking about PvP, nor the 3 ppl in TBC Classic that even bothered with arena.

SL/SL was not nearly as strong either this time around since we had resilience affecting DoTs from S1 (when it did not in OG TBC)…

Its the Blizzard doctrine OP.

“Fix it until its broken”

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For the sake of repeating myself, the 4 mage elementals were a fact!

Will you also admit that you were 1/2 wrong on the Shaman always existing (It didn’t exist for the Alliance) and totally wrong on the Shaman always having having elementals?

BTW: as you suggested, I researched the time people went “walking on the sun”… seems it only happened in the lost memories of a few WoW players, who set themselves up as ultimate authorities who refuse to admit when they are wrong and someone else is right…

Was it stupid that blizz never got the memo that no one used the elemental because the talent was always garbage? Sure. Was it even more ludicrous due to the fact that they have the data to tell them this the whole time? Yep. Could they have done something about it? Yep. Did they have ample time do so? Yep. Could they have turned it into a solo tanking pet? Yep. So did anyone ever use it? Nope.

But do I care that it’s gone? Nope. Why? See above.

I also liked my elemental. It wasn’t a strong tank like a voidwalker but it did allow for more creative solutions in a squishy class. I will miss mine for so many more reasons. It felt less “alone” when playing solo late into the evening. Given the chance I would have voted to let individual frost mages decide to keep it or not.

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if this was the case, you’d be able to point to a time, a year, a patch, an expansion… where this ever happened.

You can’t.

Because it wasn’t a thing.

Perhaps it existed in some board-game version of the game which you invented with your friends… but I’m not aware of that version of the game.

i’m not “half wrong”.
just because they were only available to one faction, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist.
nor did they only half exist.

they did.

if you could prove me wrong, you would have gladly taken the opportunity to do it by now.
:wink:

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So I’ve got good news that many here probably found out on your own but I’m going to say it anyways. You can glyph the elemental you spawn from the cooldown to be the blue skin again. Also for those like myself who miss having the water elemental by your side and maybe want even a tiny one to serve as your elemental’s kid for those of us who the elemental was dear… you can get a blue water elemental pet called Seafury from a rare elite in Vashir. Found this all out today and happy to say I’ve got enough to convince me to spare my frost mage from being ignored.

Could always use the little companion pet water elementals and work something in there. But I agree, losing water elemental was unfortunate all around even if people didn’t utilize it often.

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It’s not the same thing the size difference matters to me, and I used the ice version for my mag’har.

I wouldn’t mind a toy for each version of the water elementals since they did have glyphs to customize them.

Make the water elemental toys last an hour 5 minute cd. They can make the toys purchasable in the mage legion class hall.

:panda_face:

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