The War Within™ Season 1 and Raid Schedule Overview

you do understand how geared they got and they still had to do HUNDREDS of pulls… like M+ers cry about a single wipe and leave groups. Its also easier to complete endgame M+ (+10s) over end game raids still to this day. SO i feel embarrassed having to correct your stupidity

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Well it’s not the same level gear. The max reward you can get as a drop in M+ is H raid quality.

It would take a M+ only player 16 weeks of perfect vaults to have the same ilvl as an okay M Raider who is still stuck 7/9 near or at the end of the patch.

And even in the scope of M+, key levels that drop ‘mythic raid gear’ in vault are something like <35% of keys ran.

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shhhh you’ll break their delusion. Can’t have that.

Please reconsider M+ opening a week after Heroic raids. Every expansion you time gate something people are looking forward to enjoying and every expansion we ask you to stop. Let us play the game.

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This is NOT the way…

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I literally took the first week of the season off because I mean, everyone thought that mythic+ would be opened that week like it always has. Thanks for this, Blizzard.

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yeah why are heroic and normal raids open but mythic plus is not?

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Why do raids have a weekly lockout but M+ does not?

I like it. More time to chill and go through everything without having to rush to be ready alongside the guilds for everything at once. Especially if they want to have this disgusting early access bullshlt.

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well the great thing about raids is that you get multiple chances per week at BiS item drops from multiple bosses.

with mythic plus - you only get one chance at a BiS item per week in your great vault.

also raids get a chance at BiS loot in the great vault in addition to the multiple drops during the raid itself.

I wasn’t aware that Grieftorch, for example, dropped off of every single boss in Vault of the Incarnates. How is it that I never saw one drop off anything but Broodkeeper?

Oh, were end-of-dungeon drops removed for TWW? That’s interesting.

well the great thing is that every boss in every raid drops a bis item - take the eranog ring for example.

multiple chances at multiple bis items every week

I don’t know why more people haven’t brought this up.

Nerfing the Heroic dungeon gear drops from Adventurer 4 to Explorer 4 for pre-season weeks seems overly excessive and unnecessary.

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Anyone who bought early access to gain a PvE advantage is a fool. Nothing relevant was ever going to be open during the early access period. There is always a couple week gap from xpack launch to relevant content opening up.

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Really? What was my BiS item off of Sennarth?

Keystones not coming out sooner is going to ruin my marriage. My wife strictly plays to do keystones and have fun pushing keys. With this late stage opening (almost a month after launch) this will give her time to realize she actually hates the game and by extension me. Thanks blizz you’ve ruined my life.

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the tier piece at myth track level.

the great thing about raid loot is that you could kill broodkeeper one time and have four grief torches drop - then have another chance in your great vault to get a grieftorch if you didn’t win the roll during the raid.

mythic plus players only have their great vault - they don’t get any chances to roll on any worthwhile loot during the dungeon because mythic plus dungeons do not drop myth track gear

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No one did, that particular poster just likes to throw as much negative energy towards people who bought the Epic Edition to make themselves feel better for not having purchased it. They comment in every Early Access thread calling people who bought the Epic Edition losers.

Tier comes from anywhere, though; most of mine comes from M+ these days.

only one chance per week in your great vault… whereas you could get a full tier set at myth track level from one raid clear.