I was speaking about HoF M+
Which are still the small majority of players
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Maybe the 1st week. But not the 2nd. The M+ crowd will do their usual thing where they hit the forums right away complaining that everything is too hard. Then Blizzard will nerf it all to the ground like they do with M+ every time.
Remember how in Dragonflight it was supposed to be “M+ will be harder but the rewards will be better”. That lasted like 2 weeks. They even got Blizzard to remove season affixes, after they had a complete meltdown over Thundering (which wasn’t even difficult).
By your logic, a 5 is higher end if you’re really bad.
What I mean to say is you clearly are speaking emotionally and not logically.
I go for HOF because non-competitive is boring to me, not to “flex” on you or anyone else. Fragile ego much man.
If m0 is normal level gear, sounds like heroic raid should be delayed then too?
+10s give the final reward from M+, the dungeon teleports. +12s are definitely High level. Before all the M+ changes that occurred with Season 4 of DF and being carried over into TWW, 12s were not high level. But under the new system they most certainly are.
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Umm…that isn’t how hall of fame works…
(I still think it all should get released at once).
Ah, right, so the “LFR players are second class and have to endure being spoiled by the mythic raiders weeks before they access the content” continues.
“We can’t make the Race to World First raiders mad. After all, they make up 0.01% of the playerbase and should be catered to!”
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Hall of fame is the first 200 guilds to clear the raid.
Once it’s full, that is it. Nobody else gets it.
It’s not something that can “wait.”
M0 will only get veteran for EoD and Normal in vault so its LFR tier
So… you want us to unsub for a whole month when the expansion launches? Why delay a significant part of the game’s content until almost a month later?
My God.
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Yes, my mistake. I got confused with the multiple different people I was talking to. I was thinking about the top 0.1% Mythic plus.
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Lame as hell making us wait until the 17th for m+. Just cap it for heroic week like you used to…dont lock us out of it completely.
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but are these really just the facts? I question these facts.
Yeah because even very popular streamers and high end key pushers weren’t complaining about that at all 
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Yeah when the “very popular streamers” and everyone else started screaming that affixes should buff and heal the players, rather than make things more challenging, was when I finally lost all respect for M+ players.
Raiders are weak and useless players and had a crybaby meltdown because they couldn’t beat Tindral in the exact state Echo and Liquid did by week 2. Raiders cried and cried to get it nerfed, like the typical weak and worthless non WF raiders they are.
^That’s how stupid statements like the one you just made sound to anyone with a connection to reality.
If the person who mentioned you being a raid leader are true, I feel truly and deeply sorry for the 20-25 people in your group. Embarrassing.
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Weird, I don’t remember anyone demanding Mythic Tindral nerfs on this forum.
M+? Every single day. And it’ll happen again in TWW.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
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Oh wait, you’re serious.
There were more cries to nerf tindral than all m+ complaints of DF combined.
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