The game lacks this at the moment.
Something that adds lore and brings more flavor to the game. Something like saurok.
Judging from the description of that video, it seems like it may be a fan animation using in-game models. I really wish I had talent like that, as it was an amazing video.
And since weāre sharing videos, I did come across an Elder Scrolls Online trailer that has an Argonian in it that does some cool stuff:
Around the 1:45 mark, the Argonian does a tail spin attack to knock someone off their feet. Itās very similar in animation to the original Iksar models in Everquest 1 doing a similar combat animation. Such an attack is an idea presented as a Saurok racial idea, which can work as a brief AoE stun around the Saurok.
Now just imagine if you had Blizzard cinematics for a future expansion and seeing Saurok and their mounts and all decked out in armor fighting alongside the Horde against a big threat or the Alliance or what have you. Wouldnāt that be amazing to see in full CGI? Iām sure Saurok would look awesome in such a scene!
As I said before, a playable Lizardman race would be huge news for the game in more ways than one and likely would be well received. Saurok can have a lot to offer with more fleshed out lore and becoming a playable Horde race.
And yes, devilsaur mounts would be pretty awesome to ride into battle. I can totally see Saurok doing just that. It takes a ferocious rider to take on riding a ferocious beast!
And I also noticed the tribal paintings on the shoulders and tail. Nice.
Since Blizzard is taking feedback off the forums more closely, it may be a good idea for me to take a look at revamping and adding to sections on the main post of both my megathreads. I figured it would be a good idea to make sure our Saurok/Ogre research is in order and more presentable, along with making it easier to find stuff weāve discussed in the megathread.
For Saurok, Iāve been thinking of typing up a lore section for them. Something similar I did for my Stonemaul Ogre megathread, where I spice up the text to make it a bit more enjoyable to read. Iāll likely keep the two lore videos to go with it, but I figured having some background on them would be a good start.
Iām also planning to go through all the posts in this megathread to make a āposts of interestā (name pending) section ofā¦well, posts of interest. A section to show off a look at lizardmen in other media and RL lizards Iāve gone over for customization/racial ideas is one part of it. Granted, there are videos I have linked to that sadly are not on youtube anymore, so Iād likely have to do something with those posts.
Iām also wanting to make a section of fan works. Both Saurok related shown throughout this megathread, such as fan art and writings people have made, and possibly a link to the lizardman artwork Iāve shared for some Saurok idea inspiration.
So far, that is what I have thought of, though I am open to suggestions of what else to add/revamp to the main post of the megathread. Iām not sure when the next update to the main post will be, though likely itāll be the lore of Saurok I do next.
Itās unclear on what to expect in the future of WoW, but Iāll still keep hope that playable Horde Saurok are a part of that future someday.
Under the assumption that Blizzard is collecting feedback from the forums, my hope is that Saurok would get considered as a playable Horde race as opposed to getting scoffed at.
I understand that Saurok as a playable race is a bit of a pipe dream. After all, this is a mook NPC race meant to go RAWR, try to eat your face, and also drop loot when players mess them up in combat. At first glance, it can be weird to see people interested in them becoming a playable race.
However, as Iāve tried to show throughout this megathread, Saurok have a lot of potential to be more than just quest criteria jobbers. I donāt say this just because I want them playable (though I will admit that is a reason), but because they have a lot to offer.
In terms of story, their lore has a lot to work with that would make for great storylines. It also allows them to fit pretty well on the Horde.
Being a lizardman race, itās something that would add a lot of flavor to the character creation screen. Likely, they would be well received as a result, since lizardmen races are popular in fantasy media. It will create some marketing hype initially, while acting as an investment for gaining future player interest in the game. The more options there are for player characters, the better in my opinion!
And being a lizardman race means there are all kinds of customization option potential. A lot of it based on RL reptiles, in which there is a lot of variety. There would be so many options that even ongoing customization options to add overtime is possible if Blizzard went that route.
I could go on, but I have elaborated in more detail on the above and more many times in this megathread. My point is that I know Saurok are a bit of an odd choice at first glance, but if you give them a chance and some creativity, youāll see there is something pretty awesome there. So I hope that if Blizzard does look at this megathread, they do so with an open mind.
Iāll continue to keep at it with the playable Horde Saurok support, as well as dreaming for the day to recreate my Iksar characters from Everquest 1. Being able to have them be champions of the Horde and saviors of the world (of Warcraft!) would be a dream come true for me!
Lizardmen are a common request across multiple games. Blizzard could be among the first to give them to us. Argonians are extremely popular for ESO. Lizardmen are a wonderful army in Warhammer. (that video above too. omg nice.)
Saurok are WoWās lizardmen and they have so much potential.
I hope Blizzard sees these threads. The work you, Bagzak, have put into them and brings us that horizon where so many new races are added to that character creation screen.
With next month being October, Iām again wanting to do a Saurok celebration throughout the month as āSauroktober!ā which I got the idea from the Vulpera āFoxtoberā celebration back in the days of BfA. While Iām thinking of some stuff to do for that month, I wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions.
At present, Iām wanting to think of some posts to do throughout the monthā¦which I know I normally do that throughout the year, but I did want to try and do a bit more of that. Iām not sure specifically what that will be, but Iām sure Iāll think of some stuff. Iāll likely do some screenshot artwork and stories at least
If I recall correctly, October 21st is National Reptile Awareness day, so Iāll try to do something on that day also. Unfortunately, I was too busy with RL obligations and forgot about National Lizard Day (August 14th), so I need to do better at that. < - <;
Iām still interested in someday doing a photo shoot event in Orgrimmar with people as Saurok, though like with the Ogre event I want to do, Iām unsure if Iāll be able to start one up since Iām in the process of searching for a job and, if I can get employed, I donāt know what my schedule will be like. If I get to a point where I feel like I can schedule such an event, Iāll be sure to mention it here, but I donāt want to make any promises until Iām sure I can keep them. Being a responsible adult can be a bummer at times. < - <
If anyone has any ideas of what all to do for Sauroktober, please share! Or if you have anything you particular want to do or posts to type up, feel free to do that too. I want to see if I can make Sauroktober a fun celebration for those who want to see Saurok as a playable Horde race someday, but weāll start small, see where it takes us, and go from there.
As I mentioned before, October is one of my favorite months for various reasons. Nice weather, Halloween, my Stonemaul Ogre megathread anniversary, and of course Sauroktober stuff are among those reasons. Hopefully Iāll be able to figure out stuff for Sauroktober and itāll evolve into something awesome.
Of course, supporting playable Horde Saurok will be done all year long. Having their own month to do some special celebrations and potential events just sounds like a good time to me!
Since I forgot about World Lizard Day this year, due to being busy IRL trying to set up employment seeking, I thought I would do a post on it since RL lizards have a lot of neat features that would be great for Saurok racials and customization options.
World Lizard Day is on August 14th, and I went and found some neat videos celebrating it this year.
This video shows off a Solomon Islands skink:
This video shows off a gilla monster with some facts:
This video is a fun one showing a couple of painted dragons munching on some food and just surveying the area:
This short video shows off a few lizards in quick succession, including one that appears to have a dewlap that glows in the dark:
And finally, this video is a compilation that shows off various lizards:
As you can see, there are a lot more neat RL lizards that would make for some awesome Saurok customization options. Iāll have to do some more research posts in the future when I can for Saurok inspiration.
Hopefully next year, Iāll be better about doing this on the actual World Lizard Day. In the meantime, however, Saurok support will be year-round!
Jinyu first!
Jinyu/Ankoan would make for a wonderful Alliance race and would be one of my most wanted races for that faction. Since weāre supporting Saurok for the Horde, we could easily have both.
If youāre interested, there is a Jinyu/Ankoan megathread that could use some support here, in which it has been awhile since it was active:
Lots of good ideas and concepts within that thread for them. Hopefully, weāll see them become a playable Alliance race someday!
Jinyu and Hozen should be added.
Along with Ankoan and Kelfin.
And Frost Dwarves and Taunka.
Many races deserve to be added.
Saurok among them. No one is saying specifically when.
Got another art piece to share, and this time itās an Argonian from the Elder Scrolls series!
This art piece is titled āArgonianā and was uploaded to DeviantArt on October 12th, 2015 by a user named Varagka. Itās of a male Argonian archer, armed with a bow and a quiver of arrows while standing in a swamp area.
āArgonianā by Varagka on DeviantArt
The main interesting aspect about this image is of course the bow and arrows. Saurok Hunters would likely be using bows over guns, though Iām sure some players would like guns instead. This gives a better chance to imagine what Saurok Marksman and Beast Master Hunters could look like.
Another interesting aspect is of course the neat features about the Argonian with his horns and spikes. Argonians in the Elder Scrolls series have a lot of customization options, which Iāve shared links to creation of them in several of the Elder Scrolls games before, and sharing this art piece helps with the Saurok customization idea inspiration. Horns and spikes are potential options for Saurok, so it helps to see examples of them on other Lizardmen races of different games, media, and such.
Iāll continue to hunt for more Lizardmen related material to share for Saurok idea inspiration!
Iām busy making terrible posts elsewhere on the forums, Bagzak!
Iām on vacation and seeing lizards everywhere. It would be nice to see a neat lizard race as playable!
Getting to see all kinds of lizards sounds like a great vacation to me!
And yes, a playable Lizardman race would be amazing to see in the game and offer such a refreshing choice in character options. Hopefully, weāll see playable Horde Saurok everywhere in the world (of Warcraft!) someday!
The hunt will be glorious!
Canāt wait for mine to taste Koddo meat, and tallstriderā¦ And zhevraā¦ And humanā¦ I meanā¦ Boar. Yessā¦
Saurok for the Horde!
Something I thought about for my potential Saurok characters is to make sure I work on their cooking. When possible, Iād have meat-related food on them at all times. Meat giving strength and having healing properties would work very well for Saurok beliefs. Especially if I have to hunt for the ingredients.
Also, itās still Summertime here with temperatures in the 90ās, so Iāll be getting to munch on some BBQ food again before Fall starts. Hot dogs and turkey burgers are in my near future as I unleash my inner Saurok on such a feast!
I was thinking some about Hearthstone and Saurok being in Unāgoro Crater and thought of another potential reason to have Saurok reside in the area: To repel Mogu that may come to the area.
Mogu were said to be made by the titans, and UnāGoro just happens to be a pretty big titan-influenced area. In fact, that particular fact is a reason that Saurok are in Unāgoro Crater in Hearthstone:
āSaurok make their first Hearthstone appearance as one of the races inhabiting UnāGoro Crater in Journey to UnāGoro, even though UnāGoro is on an entirely different continent than Pandaria and had not previously known to be home to saurok. However, according to Dean Ayala, the fact that the saurok were created by the mogu, who in turn were created by the titans, combined with UnāGoro being such a heavily titan-influenced location, makes it ānot so unrealisticā that similar beings were created there.ā
So letās say that a tribe of Saurok managed to land on Kalimdor and make their way to UnāGoro Crater to try to make a new home. Shrotly thereafter, some Mogu, who are also traveling, learn of the titan influence and want to take over the area for nefarious purposes, likely leading to them wanting to take over all of Kalimdor afterwards.
Obviously, diplomacy would work as well as a can of gasoline in a volcano, so fists would fly in the area. Sounds like a neat event and lead-in to the Horde getting involved, isnāt it? And given that having Mogu on their continent would be rather low on their list of fun, happy, and healthy activities, siding with the Saurok tribe there would make more sense.
With rumors of an old world revamp, this sounds like a fun thing to do with Unāgoro Crater, as well as another way to introduce Horde-friendly Saurok that reside and guard Unāgoro Crater to the game. Have it be an event with world quests, activities to do, world bosses to kill, and rewards to get, and itād make for a fun lead-in to such an expansion.
Thatās the cool thing about Saurok: their versatility. They can work as part of an expansion as a whole or can work as being part of an expansionās feature. Theyād have good story opportunities regardless of how they were implemented, and helping them fight against evil Mogu sounds like a fun time in general.
Whether itās Unāgoro Crater or elsewhere, hopefully weāll see playable Horde Saurok someday!
Something I saw of interest in Unāgoro Crater is that, according to the Wowpedia, it is an area where Wild Gods are said to have come from:
āAs the titan-forged began shaping Azeroth, Keeper Freya wandered the world, creating enclaves of life and nature in the places where the waters of the Well of Eternity had coalesced, such as UnāGoro Crater, Sholazar Basin and the Vale of Eternal Blossoms. The greatest creatures to emerge from Freyaās enclaves were the colossal Wild Gods.ā
Now for some fun idea creation! Going along the line of thinking of Unāgoro Crater as a place for Saurok to reside, Iām imagining that the tribe of Saurok who end up there traveled from Pandaria, maybe being led there by a reptilian wild god of some kind. Maybe by residing there, the Saurok could help act as protectors of the place in general and maybe helping the ecosystem with their hunts there.
This could lead to some evil Mogu either following them or eventually arriving there while exploring, discovering the Titan related stuff in the area, and wanting to take it over for themselves. As I mentioned last post, this could lead to the Horde getting involved to help repel the evil Mogu off Kalimdor, making peace with the Saurok tribe there and having them join the Horde, and them acting as defenders of that territory in case the Mogu try to strike again.
I feel like the idea of Saurok following a wild god is very fitting for them. It can give them a reason to engage in hunting in their culture, adds a bit of character to their race, and a wild god that is ferocious but not an angry god that would turn Saurok into zealots (like the Skumblade Tribe) seems very fitting. I would guess the wild god would take the shape of some reptilian animal. A devilsaur could be possible, though Kros (who the Skumblade worship) is one of those, so maybe something else to act as a contrast for that. Possibly a dinosaur in the area or so, since they are plentiful in the area. Lots of possibilities here!
As I said, Unāgoro has some possibilities for Saurok, but isnāt the only option. A lot depends on if Saurok would act as an allied race that is part of an expansion or if they were to be a main feature of an expansion, acting like a core race on a new continent. Saurok having versatility in such a way is a good thing.
Seems like there could be more to this line of thinking, though, so Iāll be sure to think more on it and throw out some more ideas.
I like that.
Unāgoro would help the Horde secure the southern sections of Kalimdor. Not the best land but still keeps their enemies from having an easy area to make a base camp and assault from. lol
There is already Rezan and Gonk. Devilsaur and Raptor respectively.
Perhaps they would follow a Dimetrodon Loa/Wild God guiding them there to help it out. Those creatures were prevalent there.
Plus could give them even greater reason for the Druid class.
I think you could still have it for either or.
As a Core race theyād have to really up the zone and give them a true city.
As an AR it can just be an enclave with a portal to Orgrimmar and a nice recruitment scenario.
Either one could work I think.