The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

No they aren’t. Night Elves were First Purple Elves than the Generic Forced Blueberry Void Elves.

So again Too many Dark Elves on the Alliance. Need less Dark Elves and more True Unique Light Elves like High Elves/Half Elves.

Night elves aren’t all purple because, once upon a time, Blizzard cared about providing options for players to choose, instead of relying on several skins of almost the same color to pretend there are options.

Here’s what Night elves looked like in their source game, Warcraft 3:

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That image conjures up so many memories.

It was the first image I had ever seen of World of Warcraft in a neighborhood internet cafe. I asked the guy in charge about it and he pointed me to an area where people were playing this game in droves.

The first scene is emblazoned into my memory. I saw this Human Mage zoomed out to the maximum casting Fireballs at Harvest Watchers.

Created my first account the next day. Incidentally my first character was Undead, back when I liked Thrall’s Horde and Sylvanas.

Ah those days… I wonder… I wonder if I can buy this poster off Amazon. I think I want it.

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Their palette is honestly not unique when it’s the same as Night Elves and Nightborne.

Void Elves should be dark elves in the same way that Warhammer Druchii or Might and Magic Dark Elves are, but far less evil due to their faction placement, and fill the definition of shadow wielding elves.

I don’t really see the necessity for them to be stuck with purple and blue hues when the Druchii aren’t stuck with such a palette either, they should err more on looking like a darker version of Blood Elves but Blizzard went far too hard with the blue/purple paint coating that people just look at them and go back to their Night Elf and Blood Elf characters.

I think what also makes Druchii and Dark Elves really cool is the type of additional allies and fleshed out troops they bring to the table. Druchii have cool reptilian mounts and various other monster creatures, whereas the Dark Elves in Might & Magic have really cool allies like hydras, shadow dragons, medusas, and minotaurs (some of these I know couldn’t be made Void Elf allies but still, the issue applies all the same.)

If Void Elves had void allies that would make them an interesting race and would present a race that offers something cool to the Alliance like Zandalari offer the Horde with their dinosaur allies and Loa.

EDIT: I should also add that Final Fantasy XIV has Dark Elves as well, but they can customize to have more normal human-like skin tones and they still pass off perfectly fine as looking like Dark Elves so this idea that Dark Elves simply have to have purple or blue skin to be defined as such is just asinine and very simple-minded to me.

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Thats pretty cool!

As some of you might know my first experience was Warcraft II, I played it a ton and fell in love with Alleria and the Ranger units… but after that…

Years later I stumbled across my sister. She had gotten into this game and was trying to convince me to play it- she was showing off a raid she was doing with her guild- the original Zul’Gurub.

My first question? Why are all the elves so tall and purple? :rofl: I asked what happened to the “other elves” and she said that they were mostly gone. I thought that was a bummer and continued to watch her and her guild take on Hakkar the Soulflayer. (It took a long time and I got bored after a while.)

A while later Burning Crusade came out and I started playing then. I was torn between the Blood elves on the Horde and the Alliance, but my sister and her guild were all Alliance- so I made a Night Elf. The rest is pretty much history.

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That reminds me of my own experience. I started with Warcraft III and really liked Sylvanas and her rangers, so after that, I looked for the earlier games, and really loved the place Alleria and the Ranger occupied in War2, and then I spent a lot of time playing on the War3WorldEditor to recreate the Second War Alliance :smiley: I loved the alternate Ranger Skin for the Sylvanas Hero, war paint everywhere!

Then TFT happened, and I was kinda bummed the Rangers were downplayed (Imagine what was the first custom hero I made! Blood Ranger hehehe) And even if I really liked the BE’s (and still do) Even back then I was interested about what happened to the HE’s that didn’t, like the ones who left with Jaina, and groups of survivors like Jennalla Deemspring.

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Yeah, after getting into World of Warcraft I went back to Warcraft III to get a better understanding of the lore and some of the backstories for myself. I loved it so much as well I wound up doing a lot of stuff with the the World Editor as well! I even found some cool custom models online (and even found tools to do some model edits, as well as make my own custom skins)

There was this one person who made this AWESOME Ranger based on Halduron Brightwing (well it was more like a male version of the female Ranger model), and I was able to modify it to become “team colored” so it could be used as a proper hero unit…

Those were some good times. I wonder if I have some of those old tools and models somewhere.

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There is still a thriving community of war3 editting in places like The Hive Workshop (There’s a whole fanmade campaign about the Blood Elves rebuilding, but I get that the OC’s in there may not be everyone’s cup of tea)

Still I’m pretty excited to what War3 remastered will open in terms of user customization! I really hope some great modelers that like High Elves get into it :smiley:

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Entropic Embrace would be much more dramatic too. Now it just goes from light bluish purple to dark bluish purple.

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Yeah, the Hive Workshop was my primary source for models. The Halduron model is still there just from a quick search. I don’t remember how to do anything though! I used to be a whiz at importing and seamlessly integrating everything into a game.

I imagine working with the higher rez models would be more difficult. One of the advantages with the original Warcraft III is that the models were fairly low poly, so they were easy to work with- and easy to look nice… (most of the time.)

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Unf don’t even remind me of that! imagine of going from looking like Alleria to full blue voidness. I would have been shook. Part of me still would be okay with VE’s getting more warm skins, I can already wear my SC tabard and change my TRP, but I’d love to get that contrast in EE for sure.

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If they had just done that in the first place I think people would have accepted Void Elves in greater numbers.

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Yeah, that’s true! I remember I did a gnome “Technomage” it was basically jaina with a bigger head, pigtails and a huge wrench! But how to do that is not something I could do now XD.

I don’t think I could get into model editting now, but I’m sure some more talented people will; there have been people trying to do War3 in Starcraft II for a while and it looks amazing! so the people is there, and I hope they drift towards War3Remastered

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Yeah. Tho having the SC explicitly join the VE’s in some from would have been more than enough for me personally.

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I thought for sure we would be recruiting everyone from Allerian Stronghold.

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That Technomage sounds pretty sweet!

I’m pretty sure as long as they put a World Editor like they did the original Warcraft III the modding community will be fine… heck there will be modders even if they don’t!

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Urgh don’t remind me, IT WAS RIGHT THERE! Alleria gathering with her long lost Rangers? That would have been Iconic.

In my perfect scenario, we would have learned that most of them had joined the Silver Covenant already, to protect Vereesa out of Loyalty to Alleria, and they would have soon joined her on her search for Umbric.

It would have been just about adding them in 7.3 helping Alleria during her journey, getting build up as characters, then when we go save Umbric they come with us, get voided too, and we end up with NPC’s we actually interacted with.

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That would be a huge improvement imo!

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Ah here you are, so fitting :3

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I don’t see why someone can’t want High Elves and still like Void Elves for their own theme. They very clearly have their own fantasy and flavor that separate them from High Elves, but that does not mean that High Elves have nothing to bring because Void Elves exist now.

More specifically, Void Elves are the iconic shadow caster Alliance race, but I still see High Elves as being a stronger fit for Paladins, Hunters, and Mages because we are shown time and again that they are represented by these classes.

And yes, my want for them stems from not wanting Void Elves to be treated as a High Elf compromise, because that is a disgusting simplification of the potential they bring, but it also stems from empathy for what would make other people happy. I think it would help a lot more if there was less disdain for Void Elves, but I also know that will go away more quickly if Blizzard just listened to what people want like they openly said they are wanting to do.

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