The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

It’s interesting that you came in here telling people they don’t know the lore when you seem oblivious to it.

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No. From TBC:

Theloria Shadecloak says:

The opening of the Dark Portal brought news of my people’s fate. In a way, my exile shielded me from sharing in their downfall, but to see the Farstriders throw their lot in with Kael’thas

I never imagined my one-time brethren capable of such a thing.

The homecoming I once dreamt of will never happen. This forest is the only home I have left.

And then Taela Everstride:

No, don’t feel bad. I get that a lot.

<Taela looks both amused and annoyed.>

I’m a HIGH elf, not a blood elf. Don’t worry, I’m not going to suck all of the magic out of you.

And let’s not forget the Vessels of Power quest from my favorite high elf, Ros’eleth:

Amid the ruins of Tuurem are a number of vessels containing raw, magical energy. We are fortunate that the Broken who have overrun the city are ignorant to the resource in their midst, but we cannot assume they will remain so forever.

With those vessels and their power in hand, the scattered survivors of my people can resist the lure of demonic magic. Every quel’dorei we can save from our prince’s folly is one more that can help us regain our lost glory. Bring me these vessels, <class>.
All of that is Alliance-only content.

And this is back in TBC. TBC made it very clear that the blood elves were no longer “quel’dorei”. Blood elves take pride on being no longer high elves. That’s the whole point.

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now i get to do the fallacy thing to you

false equivalency

there were high elves, they changed their name to blood elves

kul tirans were a settlement of humans that ventured off from their kin. they were seperated from their kin, like the nightborne and sun elves

Thus, they are no longer high elves.

this comment says nothing and is more spam than anything

to which i respond, no, you dont know your lore, except you are far less interesting.

Personally I’d be curious to see whether or not a Void Elf brigade within the Silver Covenant would fill a traditional role as Rangers/Mages, or if they would be deployed for a specialized role using the Void. I think it’d speak to the nature of trust between Void Elves and High Elves on which it would be. If we see Void Elves within the Silver Covenant using the Void, I think that would make it evident that a degree of trust has formed between the two groups.

If Void Elves within the Silver Covenant would be recruited for the tactics already deployed by the Covenant (Mages/Rangers) I’d say that’s a fair indication that the High Elves still don’t quite trust the Void as a power source, or the Void Elves’ ability to safely wield it.

I look forward to your attempt to prove that.

The Straw man argument is the idea that the pro-high elf community somehow doesn’t understand that Sin’dorei are Quel’dorei with a changed name.

It also ignores the fact that the pro-high elf community is asking for the quel’dorei to be playable. The High Elves you’ll see located sporadically throughout Alliance Territory.

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*facepalm

No it means that high elf society is done

similar to how the world is divided into ad and bc, or ce and bce. time didnt transform, it is just a marking point

It survives. In the Alliance. That’s the point.

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It’s not a false equivalence though.

Kul Tirans were certainly not separated from the rest of humanity for enough time to evolve into a different species. They are still humans.

The differences between Kul Tiran Humans and Stormwind Humans are the same as the differences between High Elves and Blood Elves. Cultural and Political.

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Something else I’ll be curious about for the Void Elves is whether or not they’d be accepted into the Kirin Tor. The Kirin Tor has fairly strict rules about what is, and isn’t acceptable as far as magical practice goes. I can’t imagine the Void makes the list of acceptable magical practices.

Perhaps that might affect Void Elves being able to join the Silver Covenant as well.

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But unlike Blood and High Elves, Kul Tirans are on the same faction as Stormwind humans.

But that is irrelevant to the argument he’s trying to make.

And also High Elves are already part of the Alliance.

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high elf society is dead, and an npc elf calling themselves high does not undo the destruction of quel thalas.

it seems there is common ground that everyone recognizes the small light skinned elf for what they are, as in so much they exist. the endless point of controversy is whether they are bloodkin or highkin.

if that common ground can be established, then the central point is that regardless of political division, you have that faction of playable light skinned, small elf in the form of blood elves.

Asking for High Elf faction, is amount to copy pasting blood elves to the alliance. And there lies the crux of the lamentations, is that the horde got the high elves, while the alliance got purple blue elves.

it isn’t an argument about whether they exist or not, because the elves exist whether you call them blood elves or high elves. the argument is for wanting the elf puritans for the alliance.

Lightforged and Draenei are both still Draenei
Dwarves and Dark Iron Dwarves aren’t really different species.
Despite the nightwells influence Shal’dorei and Kal’dorei aren’t very physiologically different.

Mag’har orcs and orcs are both orcs.
The Wildhammer Dwarves look to be a lock.
Mechagnomes are still gnomes.

So the argument of different races mattering for allied races is moot.

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that’s conjecture. its a magical universe who knows how long it took. kul tirans are said to be a hybrid of vrykul and humans. and with their thick structure it is quite evident.

Similar to how Europeans contain the most amount of neanderthal dna than any living group of peoples today. Whereas in africa, where people did not migrate from the content, there is next to zero presence of neanderthal dna.

Guess it’s time to delete Mag’har orcs then.

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didn’t you just bring up the point of a strawman?

You happened to be making one right then. I pointed out the flaw in your logic.

reread that sentence, its a grammatical knot. I am not sure what you’re trying to say.

In any case, I am out, we are just spinning our wheels at this point.

sub communities like these are good and healthy for the game and large and keep it vibrant and alive, so to the high elf community, thank you for your spirited commentary and best of luck in obtaining your goals

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