Except we CAN argue with “God” in this case because “God” solicits feedback and has changed his mind on occasion when presented with compelling arguments.
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I think so. ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
As I’ve said, I think it’s great that people are as passionate about it as they are. I’ve definitely changed my view of a few things concerning High Elves thanks to discussions here, but my main stance hasn’t changed.
If you got your High Elves, I wouldn’t be monumentally upset.
I’m not saying you can’t im trying to point out that nothing they say is false/wrong. You can advocate for a change in the story but once it’s in game or some other canon media, then thats the new thing.
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How can the reason be true for one race but not for another? Just because Blizzard says so? Sorry but no that’s not how veracity works.
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And which you totally agree with, and have supported with statements and examples of your own, throughout this thread.
Own it.
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It is when you control the story. It doesn’t need to make sense for it to be implemented since we have no say we can just suggest. Also have you ever thought they planned to expand the Void Elves from that elite crack squad and the numbers would climb?
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My logic is that they’re too few to be playable. Because Blizzard has told me they are.
I’m not sure you’ve kept up with the discussion.
Well at least you acknowledge that it doesn’t make sense. That’s something at least.
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And you still accept that even though a race with only a tiny fraction of the numbers the denied race has, was made into an allied race. I just don’t get that.
And not for nothing… Void Elves need someone to turn into Void Elves don’t they? If there’s enough High Elves to turn into Void Elves then how in the hell is there not enough for them to be their own race? Because Blizzard says so even though it flies in the face of all logic and sense? I just don’t get that kind of thinking.
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Blizzard changes ‘lore’ at whim so therefore is not to be taken seriously as to what can and cannot be ‘canon’.
Puts on a wig and uses a goose-quill pen to scribe the next part
We, the paying customer, in order to enjoy a more perfect gaming experience, have decreed that High Elves, as such, become a playable race.
As this is neither the first thread for the redress of this vital missing element of Azeroth nor yet will it be the last until such time as Blizzard recognizes that customer satisfaction would be verily enhanced by the gracious addition of such,
THEREFORE
Do we, in this 14th Year of this World of Warcraft, do beseech and make thread and post in this matter: and to the positive resolution therefrom we solemnly pledge our Subscriptions, our Gameplay, and LOtalty to the Crown…erm…Com pany thereby.
takes off the wig, cleans and stores away the quill pen
Thank you.
Waves the Flag
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I’m not sure what’s not to get, but alright.
I’ve agreed that Blizzard ret-cons lore, but I’ve also said I don’t support it 99% of the time. I’m not a subscriber of the idea that because they ret-con, anything should be on the table.
Clever post though!
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and that attitude is what has led the game to this state. You believe blizzard to be the master in this situation and it has led to many systems players don’t like.
They are not the master. The players control them and they have forgotten that. They are not appeasing a large enough portion of their audience and thus they are suffering now.
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That is not a realistic view to have. This idea that the Consumer is always right is flat out wrong. Blizzard owns WoW, they will always have the final say in anything. If they wanted to shut down WoW tomorrow then thats that. The only power you have is your 15$ and your 15$ floating alone in the big ole sea of money means nothing to them. I don’t see droves of players quitting over High Elves and i don’t expect to in the future. It’s just not tthat important.
_"Who knows your product or service best? You and your employees. There will be times when a customer thinks they are the expert. When they assume that something is supposed to work a certain way. When they presume to know how to run your business.**
This can reach ludicrous proportions. The man who is upset that his mobile phone won’t also work as a laser gun. The woman who is frustrated that her car won’t drive autonomously. The child who is angry that the pet shelter doesn’t have a monkey.
Of course, this can happen on a much smaller scale as well. When a customer is frustrated because your product doesn’t do exactly what they thought it did. Or when the customer destroyed your product by using it improperly.
Depending on your industry, it can actually be dangerous to let the customer think they’re always right.
Rather than acting like the customer is always right, a better solution is to treat your customers like you are the expert. Obviously, don’t do this in an obnoxious or arrogant way, but in a helpful way. Help them understand the best ways to utilize your product or service. Help them see that your product or service is to be employed in a particular way.
**This will keep you from going crazy and result in happier customers.****_
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You’re insane. You truly believe blizzard is in the right atm? The vast majority of the entire playerbase that has existed disagree. Sure they have a few million still playing but the fact is there are at least 6 million people they have lost since 3.3 when they started to change the game to be more casual. Sure they didn’t all leave immediately but gradually more and more was added and the straw broke the camel’s back.
The numbers have been run for the total active number of characters worldwide. That total comes to roughly 4 million. It is also highly unlikely that each of those characters belong to their own individual accounts. Many are likely alts.
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The idea that one race has too few to be playable when multiple races with even lower populations are playable is a completely unjustifiable and false narrative.
20% of Gnomes.
300ish Draenei.
Almost extinct twice over Darkspear Trolls.
A bum rush of Mag’har to a portal.
The few surviving Lightforged.
100 Demon Hunters.
A Squad of Void Elves.
Half the population of one school on the back of a turtle for both factions.
If it is True for one it has to be True for all. Otherwise it is false. That’s how it works.
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You’re being unfair.High Elves do not equal and are not comparable to the game breaking bugs that have been repeated this entire expansion. High Elves are a complete vanity item, fixing bugs like in waycrest where the mobs come from below is completely different.
It’s obvious that the customer is not always right is not applicable to both situations.
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There’s quite a big difference between “the customer is always right” fallacy and simply understanding that a game exists only as long as it engages with an audience, which is particularly poignant when we are talking about an entertainment service.
High Elves are barely a scratch on Blizzard’s mismanagement of BfA, and to bring up the “customer is always right fallacy” into this argument is pretty disingenuous when the many flaws of BfA are squarely on Blizzard’s shoulders.
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Yeah but High Elves arent the level of engagement that sinks or floats a business. Calling them a mismanagement is not fact either.
The issue is that is pretty disingenuous to keep bringing up the population issue as a justification when it doesn’t applies to other playable races. If all you have is “Blizzard told me so” it doesn’t make it any more true when what we are calling out is a flawed argument.
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