The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

Same, I’m someone that believes they’d need to have a more prominent bearing on a future storyline if it leads to an AR.

But I love seeing them shown among the Alliance, it just continues to solidify they’re an Alliance thing.

Goes against the whole, “Blizzard will stop using high elves and focus on void elves” bit, since it means High Elves aren’t being sidelined by Void Elves.

I know we see a lot of Void Elf in BFA, but that makes sense since they’ve just been released and they need the exposure. Anyone who’s surprised by their presence in BFA over High Elves wasn’t looking at it with clarity.

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An interesting view, since I think that not every story should be extended! The Blood Elves have a fantastic storyline and they’ve currently got a little dissent to toy with in the Void Elves that were exiled from their home. Throughout the entire Nightborne questline I was bristling with excitement. Lor’themar isn’t an unkind ruler, and he thinks it’s important to allow the children of Quel’thalas their birthright.

Which brings up another question. Perhaps part of the reason they’re loathe to allow Alliance High Elves is because it wouldn’t make sense for faction barriers to exist between them and the Blood Elves anymore? Clearly the only reason Void Elves aren’t even allowed is because the danger they pose to the Sunwell.

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I think it also clearly sets up the void elves as the next step in the story for this, whereas the non voided ones on the alliance are going to slowly phase out over multiple expansions.

Seems like the intended idea as time goes on, setting up a new dichotomy between void and light with the void elves and blood elves. It’s the evolving story, and the regular alliance elves really aren’t that in the long run.

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Which is wonderful for the Blood Elves and I hope that continues for them. The High Elves, however, have additional storylines of their own to pursue. Thawing relations with the Night Elves, ancient friendships with the Wildhammer Dwarves, growing relations with the Draenei, and unexplored relations with the Void Elves. There is a lot for the High Elves just within the Alliance, and I think that is a story that should be explored, not just for the High Elves, but for the other races as well.

Perhaps. It’d make sense as to why Ion stated they didn’t want to add High Elves in BFA due to a desire to keep the factions more distinct, and we’ve been told that BFA is meant to wrap up the faction conflict story once and for all. If it does, then I see no reason High Elves shouldn’t be added.

This holds especially true if one considers the narrative as it is. Quel’Thalas is now isolated from the rest of the Horde in the Eastern Kingdoms, staring down the might of multiple Alliance nations. They stand alone. Is it worth remaining in the Horde? Especially since, as Alleria demonstrated, the Alliance is still more than open to welcoming Quel’Thalas back? I don’t see the Blood Elves changing faction, but leaving the Horde and becoming Neutral certainly strikes me as a possibility.

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Yeah. But Blizzard isn’t exactly writing game of thrones here.

It’s kind of like if you’re GMing for a pen and paper game. It’s pretty important to take a look at your players and think, “What would they like?”

If this were a Warcraft novel things could be different. Or even an RTS. But I feel like with an MMO you owe it to your players a little more than that.

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To be honest, I definitely see a third faction slowly forming. I don’t want to highjack discussion from High Elves but that’s certainly a thing I could get behind.

It’s possible, yet note that after Lor’themar allows pilgrimage to the Sunwell (is it in Wrath?) that later in MoP the Purge happened and Throne of Thunder which showed the enmity between High Elves and Blood Elves.

If they are making up with each other we haven’t been privy to that information. Nor has it been shown.

What has been shown is that even before the Void mess happened with Alleria, that she wanted Blood Elves to go into the Alliance and Lor’themar was against that idea.

That recent showing didn’t seem like Alliance High Elves and Horde Blood Elves are making up.

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Third faction won’t occur, Alex Afrasiabi stated he’d rather the two factions become 1 rather than separate guilds, friends, and families from playing together further.

I think even they’re starting to slowly wonder how much of the 2 faction system is a hindrance or a benefit to the community.

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That was actually recently, in the Nightborne quest. He allows Alleria passage because it’s her right as a Daughter of Quel’thalas.

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No I meant about when he allowed High Elves in general pilgrimage, when did that occur?

If it occurred before MoP then MoP shows the more recent relationship between High Elves and Blood Elves in general.

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That was his reasoning for allowing Alleria. He wouldn’t stand in the way of her and their most holy site.

That’s more being neutral about their religious site (the Sunwell) than actually making up.

The exchange moments beforehand has Alleria wanting them back on the Alliance and Lor’themar won’t have any of it.

I don’t see how that is indication they’ve made up. It’s possible to have a neutral site between two rival parties.

I guess for me I’d have to see if High Elves are welcomed back into Silvermoon. Not just access to the Sunwell.

Otherwise the pilgrimages to the Sunwell which is situated away from their home on an island doesn’t really lead to a “made up” status.

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I can’t see it working from a meta perspective. You wouldn’t want to sunder your population into thirds.

I don’t think I insinuated that they’d “made up”, just that they aren’t entirely bound by faction constraints and that might be a reason why they don’t want to blurr the lines further by adding High Elves.

Unless they added a third faction and completely eradicate racial locks?

That seems unlikely though.

I guess what I’m asking for is where are the lines blurred between the High Elves and Blood Elves?

I’m not even sure what you mean by they’re not bound by faction constraints and how lines would get blurred.

Well, you have Blood Elves who are Horde in a “Horde City” by game standards and their leader seems to allow members of the opposing faction into their home because he acknowledges that they are still kin, and blood is thicker than water to him.

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I get the feeling you’re suggesting that the High Elves were some kind of neutral faction. But they’ve been a part of the Alliance since Warcraft II essentially. The Quel’dorei broke their alliance with the humans post Warcraft II, but High Elven Healers and Sorcerers remained.

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I’m not, no.

I’m explaining this.

And Dalaran, an Alliance Kingdom, allows members of the Horde into their city…

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