The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

Agreed.

That said, it’s still interesting to continue seeing the High Elves being given a presence within the Alliance. A lot of players felt that the Void Elves would be the end of the High Elven presence, but we’re not seeing High Elves diminished. They remain as ubiquitous as before.

As someone who really enjoys mages, I personally am quite happy to see more High Elven mages becoming prominent in the Alliance. Archmage Yvera was a nice touch for certain, as were the 7th Legion Shield Mages, but seeing the Silver Covenant have mages more visible again after Legion didn’t give their mages much screentime is quite nice.

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It would be cool. Farondis was a nice character that I would love to be used more. If they were de-cursed and joined the alliance they could use him in the future more as part of the story.

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I think the thing I’ve come to accept is that Blizzard is a “follow what I say, not what you think it looks like” parent.

It’s frustrating at best and disingenuous at worst, but I have to believe if Blizzard tells me that High Elves are nearly all gone, then they are.

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The problem with this is that when the curse is dissiped, some of them acually die and their spirit go to rest like Garuhod.

We don’t know that. Garuhod tried to break the curse through other means and he may not have done it correctly. Instead of lifting the curse he “killed” himself.

It should be in Dalaran. That’s the Silver Covenants Headquarters. Even if they did move to the Lodge in Legion.

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The thing is, minds change over time. We’ve seen the Developers and other employees outright tell us, “No,” several times in regards to certain requests, only to turn around and implement them anyways. We’ve seen the lore change over time as well to suit the existing narrative. We went from Pandaren having a race too small to play to having an entire hidden continent of Pandaren on top of a group of them living on the back of a gigantic-turtle.

As is the Lore has been set up for High Elves in such a way that population has always been vague. In the early days it might’ve been the general idea that there weren’t many High Elves, but over time that clearly changed, particularly when we got to Wrath of the Lich King and the Silver Covenant appeared.

All I can do is speculate, but I think Blizzard wanted to hold off on High Elves until after the Faction Conflict Expansion. Once BFA is done, I imagine High Elves will be implemented. Perhaps not immediately, but I can see them coming in 9.0 and beyond.

If we’re going to talk about a High Elven city, I could not get into that without suggesting the ‘High Elf House’ art, by Sven Bybee, as the architecture to the Quel’dorei.

http://cp16.nevsepic.com.ua/271/27199/thumbs/1473252636-ed0bfa668f1e3391df2862030c2e3618.jpg

But the silver covenant isn’t the only part of the high elf population. The ideal thing is for all the different groups to be unified together. The silver covenant would likely still be the main military force but they would not be the entirety of the new faction.

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Isn’t that from the Warhammer High Elves?

To be fair, I could see the Silver Covenant being the main faction of a High Elven nation. To try and clarify that a bit, when a Blood Elf player gets their heritage armor, it has a very specific look as a Spellbreaker’s armor.

I could see High Elven Heritage Armor being based off of a Silver Covenant look. Preferably one with the same pants/robes option.

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It was vague in terms of literal numbers but it’s never been vague in terms of that number being extremely small.

Dev statements impressing that only a fraction of a fraction of them remain, and I’ve quoted passages from books stating they’re “near extinct”.

I do agree that they have a tendency to change their minds and retcon lore but that’s not something we can really talk about to any meaningful degree I think. What if? is a valid hope but, the sky’s the limit in that case!

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Yeah, but the Silver Covenant is already essentially Allied with the Alliance Military.

They could make some new thing, but it’s not particularly necessary. The Quel’Danil Elves and Allerian Hold Elves are also good starting points, the Allerian Hold Elves actually still have quel’dorei architecture.

I don’t really see all the lodges being abandoned. But Silver Covenant’s an easy lodestone to attract other Alliance High Elves.

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But how small is small? If the pre scourge population of the race had several million but afterwards it was reduced to a few tens of thousands that would still be small in relation. The blood elves in turn would probably have a population of hundred thousand or 2.

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“Near extinct” is a quantifiable term, some might argue.

As has been pointed out, though, it just doesn’t matter anymore.

Allied Races have small populations.

It’s also been 13 years since Vanilla and quite a few expansions.

Keep in mind the Tauren said they were nearly extinct when they joined the Horde in Warcraft III.

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well if humans it reality were reduced to a population of about 50 thousand or less then we would be considered near extinct.

As I’ve said, just because Blizzard has decided that it doesn’t matter for x or y race doesn’t mean that it doesn’t matter for every race. What appears inconsistent to us may have reason for that inconsistency until we’re told otherwise.

You are really stubborn when you want to be.

Lor’themar was appointed by Kael to rule in his absence. He was chosen because of personal achievements, not just because he was ranger-general. He is not even the ranger-general anymore. As Regent Lord, he had to leave the farstriders to Halduron.

The magisters have way more prestige than the farstriders in thalassian society. Under Kael’s reformation of Quel’thalas, the farstriders lost importance but the magister didn’t. In fact, the blood knights are under the magisters in the hierarchy, yet they gained a lot of the prestige that the farstriders once had.

This feels like the debate equivalent to, “Shhh. Just go with it.”

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