The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

The system cant change because they dont develop the zone. Blizzard has literally gone on and stated that if they did that, they would take away time to developing new content for an expansion.

If it was TBC, I would have said sure. Now, I’d rather see actually development.

So have other races. Big whoopity-doo.

Dang Stormwind and NIght elves being authoritarian. Nothing Anduin or TyrMalf can change this.

Thats the problem. Because they havent updated Silvermoon, and blood elves are already criminally underused as is.

You mean besides a zone going untouched in story for 10 years, after every other zone in EK got redone?

So those Draenai are still waking up from their crash? Ghostlands is still undergoing issues with Dar’Khan? Blood elf players still need to join the Horde officially after being in it since TBC?

Like this doesnt take a scientist to understand.

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I’m seeing a lot of discussion around Blue Eyes, so I made a comparison, since people can’t tell the difference between Blood Elf eyes and High Elf eyes, even when they’re both blue.

Maybe now people can notice the difference.

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How is it outdated if literally nothing has changed it?

There is no evidence to suggest that it changed and new evidence that suggest it didn’t.

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They don’t need to developt the zone. There’s been short stories and quests covering Lor’themar since then. Stop ignoring them.

No, the problem is that you are refusing to admit lore just because it bothers you.

Until new canon changes it, It. remains. Canon.

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If the demand is there they can write whatever they want to make High Elves work. Just like how they took the Shen’dralar Highborne theme (Alliance btw) and expanded it into a whole new allied race, the Nightborne.

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Because the zone itself hasnt been changed in 10 years. The zone is in need of a revamp, but will never be because of it being in TBC servers.

This would be the first time that you would be bringing them into play. Since your only evidence you brought forth was that interaction.

But go ahead, show me where.

Sure, can you admit that Draenai are still waking up from their crash on Azeroth first?

Until new canon changes it, It. remains. Canon.

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Velen’s Short Story.

Blood Elf political structure hasn’t changed because there is no lore that says it has.

Until you have new lore that says it has, you can’t say it did.

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Oh so now we are admitting the game is outdated? How interesting.

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In the Shadow of the Sun. I cite it all the time, because it actually updates Quel’thalas’ situation post TBC quite nicely.
Cataclysm’s new blood elf intro.
Dialogue between Vereesa, Halduron and the messenger near Zul’Aman.
Purge of Dalaran and Isle of Thunder events.
8.1 Heritage armor set story.
All the novels that came after TBC that cite Lor’themar.

There’s plenty of material updating the situation in Quel’thalas. None ever changes the political system. Lor’themar still rules unopposed.

And about your foolish draenei claims, read Velen’s short story.

That’s it, you are moving goal posts as you are constantly cornered.

No one ever said the game is not outdated. We are saying the political system didn’t change. Prove us wrong.

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So where’s that lore that says it changed since then?

Until you can provide that this argument yours is just circular and it’s pointless to have a conversation with your about it.

You are usually a fairly level headed poster, but this is ridiculous.

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And these cite Lorthermar as a fascist, how?

No but you said that Velen’s short story disproves my draenai claims…which are involved with the current state of the Draenai intro quests which havent been changed since the story’s inception.

So that means, the game’s questing is outdated with what current lore is. And it wasnt changed with the rest in Cata.

No, you actually proved me correct in my assumption.

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I really don’t think that discussing this stuff is important to the thread, the alliance High Elves are not Blood Elves neither they are governed or alligned with the Silvermoon government, doesn’t matter if it is authoritarian or not (i’m not going to use the term fascist, not only because it isn’t supposed to apply to a fantasy universe, but also because people overused it so much that it almost lost it’s original meaning). Discussing this would make sense if you are talking about Void Elves though.
I just don’t like when things go too out of point.

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Because you just said how a TBC zone is outdated, yet remains current content.

That puts into question the integrity of other zones unchanged from that era.

Sorry bud. You disproved your own point.

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My point is it never changed because nothing shows it has.

Where is the lore that says it has?

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Why do I have to show it, when Blizzard hasnt written it. You’ve essentially proven that TBC zone content is outdated, which was my point.

Thanks Drede.

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the content isn’t current. you are not getting it through your head. The stuff in the zones have happened. They are in the past. Their ideology has not been shown to have changed however. Until we get updates that present otherwise we must go off of the last available knowledge.

Wow. Is that your defense?
They don’t call him fascist, so he isn’t?
He’s a fascist because he’s ruling unopposed with military support. That’s a fascist. You can call it whatever else you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that he’s a fascist. Benevolent dictators are still dictators.

Velen’s short story happens during Cataclysm, so yes, new lore updating old lore.

Yeah, sure. Whatever. Lore changed to satisfy you despite no lore changing at all.

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Which is my point.

Because they havent had political lore updates in ages, let alone blood elf lore updates.

We have the same argument. I am just not going to flat out call someone a term which doesnt fit in with a fantasy setting because of something that isnt current.

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Then your point has no bearing on the conversation.

You have to show it because that’s what mean it changed. If you can’t then that means it hasn’t.

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I was asking for examples, but okay. Nice dodge there.

Hasnt changed game content.

Thats my point though.

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