^^^ This ^^^11/12/2018 06:46 PMPosted by JoyeuseHere's to High Elves by the end of Battle for Azeroth!
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Its really cool to see so many arts about High Elfs being produced.
Its hard to find people so passionate about wow these days.
Its hard to find people so passionate about wow these days.
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So you're asserting Blood Elves are indeed High Elves. Nice.
I guess we'll just refer to Kul Tiran humans simply as humans, or Dark Iron Dwarves as just Dwarves, or Mag'har Orcs as just Orcs, or High Mountain Tauren as just Tauren, or Lightforged Draenei as j-
You get the idea. You know exactly what we mean when we say High Elves.
Side note, I'm really happy to see all this fan art and positivity nearing the end of this thread. Its been one hell of a ride with you all, and I look forward to continuing it in the new forums. Cheers!
Just to be clear:
Kul Tiran humans differ from the main race, Dark Iron differ from the main, Mag'har differ from the main, ...
And Kael'thas Sunstrider was a High Elf who started a thing where most of the High Elves started referring to themselves as Blood Elves. Ergo, High Elves don't differ from High Elves - they are a playable race for the Horde.
You want the political faction of the Silver Covenant to become an allied race, be clear about it. Rolling Blood Elves for alliance isn't going to happen.
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I guess we'll just refer to Kul Tiran humans simply as humans, or Dark Iron Dwarves as just Dwarves, or Mag'har Orcs as just Orcs, or High Mountain Tauren as just Tauren, or Lightforged Draenei as j-
You get the idea. You know exactly what we mean when we say High Elves.
Side note, I'm really happy to see all this fan art and positivity nearing the end of this thread. Its been one hell of a ride with you all, and I look forward to continuing it in the new forums. Cheers!
Just to be clear:
Kul Tiran humans differ from the main race, Dark Iron differ from the main, Mag'har differ from the main, ...
And Kael'thas Sunstrider was a High Elf who started a thing where most of the High Elves started referring to themselves as Blood Elves. Ergo, High Elves don't differ from High Elves - they are a playable race for the Horde.
You want the political faction of the Silver Covenant to become an allied race, be clear about it. Rolling Blood Elves for alliance isn't going to happen.
OMG the thread is still alive?
Also I did ask you on the other thread but I feel it should be here too: What difference do you actually see in calling them Silver Covenant instead of High Elves? They are the same people, and CURRENTLY, the High Elf moniker is used almost exclusively for those on the Alliance -And NOT just Silver Covenant so it allows more broadness, with the Allerian and Highvale-
Thalassian Elves on the Horde call themselves Blood Elves, so I ask you why do you need to ofuscate things when we have a clear terminology with High and Blood Elves?
11/12/2018 09:01 PMPosted by Talendrion
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https://image.ibb.co/cra7Yn/DBm_Line_Up.png Male
https://image.ibb.co/m1a7Yn/DBf_Line_Up.png Female
https://66.media.tumblr.com/384af1931b0d72433d58e4013c5ac47a/tumblr_pi08h6VWIb1smv67eo2_1280.png My Ranger
https://66.media.tumblr.com/5affc0fb865434f8b6b48e33a9573c07/tumblr_pi08h6VWIb1smv67eo1_1280.png My Priest
https://66.media.tumblr.com/e1054349ac160b20609a267b0f9164cb/tumblr_phu7dyifGO1smv67eo1_1280.png My Mage
https://66.media.tumblr.com/78270a67989f5c4330924b7b0d4adad6/tumblr_pgr494TnQ01smv67eo1_r1_1280.png My Warrior
Drawings
My Warrior:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/ac9c4f4452280aaff1f0910866d229e2/tumblr_pcvc5g6oRH1smv67eo1_1280.png
https://66.media.tumblr.com/4ceaf2b1ae2d638a84f872e5f5fa45c5/tumblr_pfyc1qmkqh1smv67eo1_1280.png
My Ranger:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/dfdc4c292e156caa98e7ee10b98648e2/tumblr_pflruaorNJ1smv67eo1_1280.png
https://66.media.tumblr.com/6ec042f34727dd743d7645eadcade6ad/tumblr_ontbv92VCJ1smv67eo2_r1_1280.png
I'm so glad that Talendrion is always here giving so many insights for High Elves.
Always good to see your artwork.
11/13/2018 06:57 AMPosted by Archmage11/12/2018 09:01 PMPosted by Talendrion
Edits:
LIne up
https://image.ibb.co/cra7Yn/DBm_Line_Up.png Male
https://image.ibb.co/m1a7Yn/DBf_Line_Up.png Female
https://66.media.tumblr.com/384af1931b0d72433d58e4013c5ac47a/tumblr_pi08h6VWIb1smv67eo2_1280.png My Ranger
https://66.media.tumblr.com/5affc0fb865434f8b6b48e33a9573c07/tumblr_pi08h6VWIb1smv67eo1_1280.png My Priest
https://66.media.tumblr.com/e1054349ac160b20609a267b0f9164cb/tumblr_phu7dyifGO1smv67eo1_1280.png My Mage
https://66.media.tumblr.com/78270a67989f5c4330924b7b0d4adad6/tumblr_pgr494TnQ01smv67eo1_r1_1280.png My Warrior
Drawings
My Warrior:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/ac9c4f4452280aaff1f0910866d229e2/tumblr_pcvc5g6oRH1smv67eo1_1280.png
https://66.media.tumblr.com/4ceaf2b1ae2d638a84f872e5f5fa45c5/tumblr_pfyc1qmkqh1smv67eo1_1280.png
My Ranger:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/dfdc4c292e156caa98e7ee10b98648e2/tumblr_pflruaorNJ1smv67eo1_1280.png
https://66.media.tumblr.com/6ec042f34727dd743d7645eadcade6ad/tumblr_ontbv92VCJ1smv67eo2_r1_1280.png
I'm so glad that Talendrion is always here giving so many insights for High Elves.
Always good to see your artwork.
Ayy! thank ya! If one thing I can promise, it's that Ill never stor drawing High Elves heheheh.
11/13/2018 05:26 AMPosted by Iratio...
I guess we'll just refer to Kul Tiran humans simply as humans, or Dark Iron Dwarves as just Dwarves, or Mag'har Orcs as just Orcs, or High Mountain Tauren as just Tauren, or Lightforged Draenei as j-
You get the idea. You know exactly what we mean when we say High Elves.
Side note, I'm really happy to see all this fan art and positivity nearing the end of this thread. Its been one hell of a ride with you all, and I look forward to continuing it in the new forums. Cheers!
Just to be clear:
Kul Tiran humans differ from the main race, Dark Iron differ from the main, Mag'har differ from the main, ...
And Kael'thas Sunstrider was a High Elf who started a thing where most of the High Elves started referring to themselves as Blood Elves. Ergo, High Elves don't differ from High Elves - they are a playable race for the Horde.
You want the political faction of the Silver Covenant to become an allied race, be clear about it. Rolling Blood Elves for alliance isn't going to happen.
How exactly do Kul Tirans differ? They're literally human. Biologically speaking they're pretty much the same as the humans from Stormwind, which is why many of them share the same model. Dark Iron Dwarves are just a different tribe of Dwarves, and the Mag'har Orcs are literally the exact same tribes that came to Azeroth originally, only not changed by the blood of Mannoroth.
Kael'thas declared that he and his people were no longer High Elves, however he did not speak for his entire race. One group of thalassian elves call themselves Blood Elves, while the other still call themselves High Elves to this day. They have legitimate physical differences from one another (albeit minor). I don't think anybody is denying that they're biologically almost identical, but they do differ culturally and politically
https://imgur.com/gallery/Y04jsNI
And what would it matter if we asked specifically for the Silver Covenant as an allied race as opposed to High Elves in general? The Silver Covenant exists almost exclusively of High Elves, it makes no difference. Personally I'd prefer an allied race that represents all of the remaining Quel'dorei High Elves in the Alliance, including the Silver Covenant elves, the elves of Dalaran, and the elves in various lodges. Similar to how the Mag'har Orcs have representation from various clans, High Elves have the potential to be represented in multiple ways
11/13/2018 05:26 AMPosted by Iratio...
I guess we'll just refer to Kul Tiran humans simply as humans, or Dark Iron Dwarves as just Dwarves, or Mag'har Orcs as just Orcs, or High Mountain Tauren as just Tauren, or Lightforged Draenei as j-
You get the idea. You know exactly what we mean when we say High Elves.
Side note, I'm really happy to see all this fan art and positivity nearing the end of this thread. Its been one hell of a ride with you all, and I look forward to continuing it in the new forums. Cheers!
Just to be clear:
Kul Tiran humans differ from the main race, Dark Iron differ from the main, Mag'har differ from the main, ...
And Kael'thas Sunstrider was a High Elf who started a thing where most of the High Elves started referring to themselves as Blood Elves. Ergo, High Elves don't differ from High Elves - they are a playable race for the Horde.
You want the political faction of the Silver Covenant to become an allied race, be clear about it. Rolling Blood Elves for alliance isn't going to happen.
Kul'tirans only changed with the expansion. Until now they looked identical to the other humans. You can still see this from vanilla all the way through legion.
Kael'thas changed the name of his people. When he did that he literally changed his people to a new "race" as they no longer call themselves high elves. They dont identify as high elves. The people who didnt follow him still call themselves high elves.
Also, we dont just want the silver covenant as the race. We want the other inhabitants of lodges around azeroth included in this. It's time for them to reunify as a people.
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Just to be clear:
Kul Tiran humans differ from the main race, Dark Iron differ from the main, Mag'har differ from the main, ...
And Kael'thas Sunstrider was a High Elf who started a thing where most of the High Elves started referring to themselves as Blood Elves. Ergo, High Elves don't differ from High Elves - they are a playable race for the Horde.
You want the political faction of the Silver Covenant to become an allied race, be clear about it. Rolling Blood Elves for alliance isn't going to happen.
Kul'tirans only changed with the expansion. Until now they looked identical to the other humans. You can still see this from vanilla all the way through legion.
Kael'thas changed the name of his people. When he did that he literally changed his people to a new "race" as they no longer call themselves high elves. They dont identify as high elves. The people who didnt follow him still call themselves high elves.
Also, we dont just want the silver covenant as the race. We want the other inhabitants of lodges around azeroth included in this. It's time for them to reunify as a people.
Chances are if they're going to reunify, they're going to do it by rejoining Silvermoon. Which will likely happen when Void elves get their lighter skin tones.
Alleria's high elves are more like the Blood Elves than they are like the remnant High elves, as the remnants have all but abandoned their elven culture in favor of Alliance customs, while Alleria's elves maintain their roots as they've remained together in one location, and not scattered among Azeroth. Many of them have longed to return home during their stay in Azeroth, and it's very likely that they make up most of the High elves that frequent Quel'Danas with Auric Sunchaser to visit the Sunwell.
I have the impression that the Void will corrupt Alleria in some way, causing the elves to defect. With their leader having succumbed to the Void, her remaining elves will likely have no reason to remain with the Alliance, and return home to their friends and family back in Quel'Thalas.
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Kul'tirans only changed with the expansion. Until now they looked identical to the other humans. You can still see this from vanilla all the way through legion.
Kael'thas changed the name of his people. When he did that he literally changed his people to a new "race" as they no longer call themselves high elves. They dont identify as high elves. The people who didnt follow him still call themselves high elves.
Also, we dont just want the silver covenant as the race. We want the other inhabitants of lodges around azeroth included in this. It's time for them to reunify as a people.
Chances are if they're going to reunify, they're going to do it by rejoining Silvermoon. Which will likely happen when Void elves get their lighter skin tones.
Alleria's high elves are more like the Blood Elves than they are like the remnant High elves, as the remnants have all but abandoned their elven culture in favor of Alliance customs, while Alleria's elves maintain their roots as they've remained together in one location, and not scattered among Azeroth. Many of them have longed to return home during their stay in Azeroth, and it's very likely that they make up most of the High elves that frequent Quel'Danas with Auric Sunchaser to visit the Sunwell.
I have the impression that the Void will corrupt Alleria in some way, causing the elves to defect. With their leader having succumbed to the Void, her remaining elves will likely have no reason to remain with the Alliance, and return home to their friends and family back in Quel'Thalas.
You must have forgotten about Varessa who has literally been the one leading the High Elves since WotLK. Alleria didnt show up until legion and pretty much hasn't said shes rejoining either the high elves or blood elves. It's like shes the middle sibling and choosing a path between her two sisters.
Also, Alleria doesnt have a lot of normal high elves following her. Like what two npcs in the void elf starting area? She got blood elves to follow her. Not high elves.
Hello everyone, for those who know me, I'm back.
for those who don't, I'm a RP player from CN server which used to show my support on High Elf on first Mega thread.
I admitted I was crushed when receiving the interview on July, and left, but since Blizzard ask for us to express our feeling more respectfully, today I come back with my statement, my mother tongue is not English so I apologize first, you might got a really Bad and long reading experience lol.
(And I state it again my Main RP characters in CN server are Alliances and this Tauren are made on 2012 when I play with Friends in Australia, and it is not an RP character either, I can't really RP under full English environment, you guys talking too fast :P)
Now, Lets go [i][/i]
Greeting dear Blizzard Dev team:
Firstly let me apologize for my bad English spelling, since it is not my mother tongue. You can call me Narsa, Iâm from CN server and an Warcraft Role Player and Fan story writer since 2012, And I personally running a Role play community of Void/High/Blood elves, with a lot of enthusiastic and redoubtable personnel.
Today Iâm here in response for Mr.Alexâs statement on High elfďź
âThereâre always be a chance, but please be respectful when mading feedback post.â
Which is why Iâm formally at here, come to you guys on behave of my community, one of the High Elven community outside America and even outside literally âWestern regionâ. And today Iâm here to express my understanding on high elf issue, and the reason why the high elf group should have their stand on Azeroth;
Iâm personally agree with both resolves that been putout till now, giving High elf customization option to Void elf is equally acceptable as Allied Race resolve.
But for the issueâShould Ally have playable High elf (Even only Skin)â, my answering is an absolute âYesâ.
Before I made this post, Iâve be watching on U.S general discussion forum for a period of time, Iâve seen massive responses from both yes or no faction, Which Iâm very impressed is how confirmed U.S. Ally player act to âmake WC3 human faction complete again after 16 years of waitingâ and feel very grateful and thankful when I saw overwhelming support from many horde player group. Even after the incident on interview on July, you guys didnât move/withdraw a little bit, please accept my regard.
When player having discussion, the lore are most frequently using as evidence to support their argument, so as an unprofessional fan-art writer, Let me state my argument from Role play level:
HIGH ELF IS REPRESENTING A VALUE
It is been 16 years since Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos, after betrayal of Garithos, the blood elf leave the Alliance and later join the horde on TBC, from my point of view which is one of most impressive decision that past wow dev team has ever made, Kingdom of Quelâthalas before third war is a typical âhumanoid kingdomâ and one of the founder of Alliance, but in order to preserving them-self, to save their land and their people from scourge and other uncontainable threat, they made the decision to join the horde and attached fel-magic, under the value of âanything could be done to obtain power and save Quelâthalasâ, they marching to outland and capture black temple with massive casualty , crucial training of blood knight has to end-up by killing your friend to prove youâre worthy, these Thalassian elves done unthinkable things and finally proved saved their land.
But how about other 10% of Thalassian elven? Would we have a chance to see these people that choose the opposite and willing to risking their life, risk of be brainwashed and exiled to protect the value that they appreciated?
Split from the decision of âwhether to abandon their old value to obtain power, and left their ally of millennium to save their homeland, cooperate with old enemiesâ, high elf group that used to stand side by side with their blood elf compatriot has been exiled, but they didnât gave up and keep fought for what they believe and joined multiple front-line of Alliance.
Even means they would face their relatives sword by sword, they deny the value of âit is for homelandâs sake to abandon/to transformâ which is their BE compatriot uphold. High elf groups is literally the >Government in exile<, and both HE and BE fought for an answer of the question above, âwhat is more importantâ ?
[But what is the answer of it?]
From my point of view, they(BE/HE)âre both right, and this time we High Elf Role Player, wish we can âhave the chance to answer the question from our sideâ.
But time are falling short, at the moment of Quel'Lithien dead and Silver Covenant fatally damaged by legion war, a very alarming tendency of storytelling is emerging, all the legacy of Former Kingdom of Quel'thalas(Alliance) are on the route of perishing, and Quelâdanil is somehow left alone.
[Blood elf raised again by step on bloodshed and âworking together with old enemiesâ, but high elf vanished from stay true to their heart and refuse to turn their back on their ally.]
The possible way of story goes is listed above, and if it does, whether Blizzard team realized or not, it would become a very regretful situation and I would say it is a story I canât even tell my child because the story goes humiliating some important qualities (Dignity/Loyalty/Never Forsake) of universal social value.
Yes, to secure a player available position in-game for Highelf is not only about âlighter skinâ for gameplay, is about to formally recognize a lore-based value and everything it representing, and if it settled it would be a very strong signal for all WoW player that we are playing a game which developer team both caring story writing and player feedback. I wouldnât say it is a must be, but the encouragement would be massive, globally massive.
On Game-play level, if High elf with customization options comes to the front to match Blood elf, you might ask what would be the counterpart for Void elf ?
As one of my personal advice, if Void elf become a âForm of High elfâ, the Blood elf could also receiving San'layn customization with void elfâs hair, then 4 types of Thalassian elves would first time on history, met on civil war battle field, come to answering the everlasting question of âWhich is more importantâ with their own way.
Really thank you for read through long and terrible paragraph till here, A&H players, and really thank for a lot of support/discussion from Horde side players, as a Role Player, I knew it is a world that âOne side of the otherâ, all of your support and heartwarming helping hand, even opposite advises that in good faith, making our game lore in future a better one.
To Blizzard Development team:
We understand your investment on void elf racial, and how you carefully balancing A&H player base and modified Void elf âmore identicalâ, all of your efforts, and days and nights of work on background we saw it.
[And we appreciate it.]
But the one you want to use void elf to replace is just âtoo meaningful to be replacedâ, a promise of reunion in lore, and a promise of not abandon ally that would use 16 years to complete.
As you âfeel moved when players took off their shoulder to support Vorok.Saurfang on loreâ, Iâm guessing would you feel equally moved when high elfs finally finished their unstable exile of 16 years, and proudly stand with what they believe, never need to worry about been âstory-line killed offâ?
I guess you will, because if that moment has comes, all the art from global fans, all the stories written, all the waiting, would be proved meaningful.
Narsa
Ex- Ranger Captain of Silver Covenant
Now- Ranger Captain of Voidblade Vanguard
Citizen of Dalaran
D.P 32 (13-11-2018)
Tip: Oh, it also remained me that you guys made a lot of arts of your lore based characters, I've made a story which is a love story between a blood elf dragon hawk raider and High elf ranger (After they both turn void ofc lol), if you guys interested in see a English version? I can translate one if you reply :)
for those who don't, I'm a RP player from CN server which used to show my support on High Elf on first Mega thread.
I admitted I was crushed when receiving the interview on July, and left, but since Blizzard ask for us to express our feeling more respectfully, today I come back with my statement, my mother tongue is not English so I apologize first, you might got a really Bad and long reading experience lol.
(And I state it again my Main RP characters in CN server are Alliances and this Tauren are made on 2012 when I play with Friends in Australia, and it is not an RP character either, I can't really RP under full English environment, you guys talking too fast :P)
Now, Lets go [i][/i]
Greeting dear Blizzard Dev team:
Firstly let me apologize for my bad English spelling, since it is not my mother tongue. You can call me Narsa, Iâm from CN server and an Warcraft Role Player and Fan story writer since 2012, And I personally running a Role play community of Void/High/Blood elves, with a lot of enthusiastic and redoubtable personnel.
Today Iâm here in response for Mr.Alexâs statement on High elfďź
âThereâre always be a chance, but please be respectful when mading feedback post.â
Which is why Iâm formally at here, come to you guys on behave of my community, one of the High Elven community outside America and even outside literally âWestern regionâ. And today Iâm here to express my understanding on high elf issue, and the reason why the high elf group should have their stand on Azeroth;
Iâm personally agree with both resolves that been putout till now, giving High elf customization option to Void elf is equally acceptable as Allied Race resolve.
But for the issueâShould Ally have playable High elf (Even only Skin)â, my answering is an absolute âYesâ.
Before I made this post, Iâve be watching on U.S general discussion forum for a period of time, Iâve seen massive responses from both yes or no faction, Which Iâm very impressed is how confirmed U.S. Ally player act to âmake WC3 human faction complete again after 16 years of waitingâ and feel very grateful and thankful when I saw overwhelming support from many horde player group. Even after the incident on interview on July, you guys didnât move/withdraw a little bit, please accept my regard.
When player having discussion, the lore are most frequently using as evidence to support their argument, so as an unprofessional fan-art writer, Let me state my argument from Role play level:
HIGH ELF IS REPRESENTING A VALUE
It is been 16 years since Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos, after betrayal of Garithos, the blood elf leave the Alliance and later join the horde on TBC, from my point of view which is one of most impressive decision that past wow dev team has ever made, Kingdom of Quelâthalas before third war is a typical âhumanoid kingdomâ and one of the founder of Alliance, but in order to preserving them-self, to save their land and their people from scourge and other uncontainable threat, they made the decision to join the horde and attached fel-magic, under the value of âanything could be done to obtain power and save Quelâthalasâ, they marching to outland and capture black temple with massive casualty , crucial training of blood knight has to end-up by killing your friend to prove youâre worthy, these Thalassian elves done unthinkable things and finally proved saved their land.
But how about other 10% of Thalassian elven? Would we have a chance to see these people that choose the opposite and willing to risking their life, risk of be brainwashed and exiled to protect the value that they appreciated?
Split from the decision of âwhether to abandon their old value to obtain power, and left their ally of millennium to save their homeland, cooperate with old enemiesâ, high elf group that used to stand side by side with their blood elf compatriot has been exiled, but they didnât gave up and keep fought for what they believe and joined multiple front-line of Alliance.
Even means they would face their relatives sword by sword, they deny the value of âit is for homelandâs sake to abandon/to transformâ which is their BE compatriot uphold. High elf groups is literally the >Government in exile<, and both HE and BE fought for an answer of the question above, âwhat is more importantâ ?
[But what is the answer of it?]
From my point of view, they(BE/HE)âre both right, and this time we High Elf Role Player, wish we can âhave the chance to answer the question from our sideâ.
But time are falling short, at the moment of Quel'Lithien dead and Silver Covenant fatally damaged by legion war, a very alarming tendency of storytelling is emerging, all the legacy of Former Kingdom of Quel'thalas(Alliance) are on the route of perishing, and Quelâdanil is somehow left alone.
[Blood elf raised again by step on bloodshed and âworking together with old enemiesâ, but high elf vanished from stay true to their heart and refuse to turn their back on their ally.]
The possible way of story goes is listed above, and if it does, whether Blizzard team realized or not, it would become a very regretful situation and I would say it is a story I canât even tell my child because the story goes humiliating some important qualities (Dignity/Loyalty/Never Forsake) of universal social value.
Yes, to secure a player available position in-game for Highelf is not only about âlighter skinâ for gameplay, is about to formally recognize a lore-based value and everything it representing, and if it settled it would be a very strong signal for all WoW player that we are playing a game which developer team both caring story writing and player feedback. I wouldnât say it is a must be, but the encouragement would be massive, globally massive.
On Game-play level, if High elf with customization options comes to the front to match Blood elf, you might ask what would be the counterpart for Void elf ?
As one of my personal advice, if Void elf become a âForm of High elfâ, the Blood elf could also receiving San'layn customization with void elfâs hair, then 4 types of Thalassian elves would first time on history, met on civil war battle field, come to answering the everlasting question of âWhich is more importantâ with their own way.
Really thank you for read through long and terrible paragraph till here, A&H players, and really thank for a lot of support/discussion from Horde side players, as a Role Player, I knew it is a world that âOne side of the otherâ, all of your support and heartwarming helping hand, even opposite advises that in good faith, making our game lore in future a better one.
To Blizzard Development team:
We understand your investment on void elf racial, and how you carefully balancing A&H player base and modified Void elf âmore identicalâ, all of your efforts, and days and nights of work on background we saw it.
[And we appreciate it.]
But the one you want to use void elf to replace is just âtoo meaningful to be replacedâ, a promise of reunion in lore, and a promise of not abandon ally that would use 16 years to complete.
As you âfeel moved when players took off their shoulder to support Vorok.Saurfang on loreâ, Iâm guessing would you feel equally moved when high elfs finally finished their unstable exile of 16 years, and proudly stand with what they believe, never need to worry about been âstory-line killed offâ?
I guess you will, because if that moment has comes, all the art from global fans, all the stories written, all the waiting, would be proved meaningful.
Narsa
Ex- Ranger Captain of Silver Covenant
Now- Ranger Captain of Voidblade Vanguard
Citizen of Dalaran
D.P 32 (13-11-2018)
Tip: Oh, it also remained me that you guys made a lot of arts of your lore based characters, I've made a story which is a love story between a blood elf dragon hawk raider and High elf ranger (After they both turn void ofc lol), if you guys interested in see a English version? I can translate one if you reply :)
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Chances are if they're going to reunify, they're going to do it by rejoining Silvermoon. Which will likely happen when Void elves get their lighter skin tones.
Alleria's high elves are more like the Blood Elves than they are like the remnant High elves, as the remnants have all but abandoned their elven culture in favor of Alliance customs, while Alleria's elves maintain their roots as they've remained together in one location, and not scattered among Azeroth. Many of them have longed to return home during their stay in Azeroth, and it's very likely that they make up most of the High elves that frequent Quel'Danas with Auric Sunchaser to visit the Sunwell.
I have the impression that the Void will corrupt Alleria in some way, causing the elves to defect. With their leader having succumbed to the Void, her remaining elves will likely have no reason to remain with the Alliance, and return home to their friends and family back in Quel'Thalas.
You must have forgotten about Varessa who has literally been the one leading the High Elves since WotLK. Alleria didnt show up until legion and pretty much hasn't said shes rejoining either the high elves or blood elves. It's like shes the middle sibling and choosing a path between her two sisters.
Also, Alleria doesnt have a lot of normal high elves following her. Like what two npcs in the void elf starting area? She got blood elves to follow her. Not high elves.
Vereesa leads a small partisan group of High Elves on Dalaran, but she does not make up the majority. I also believe Alleria stronghold has larger populations of High elves as well. It's also important to remember that in-game populations do not accurately represent the official populations of these settlements, which are likely far larger than what see in-game. It's very likely that the High elves we see at the Sunwell make up many of her forces, (As most do not reside in Stormwind) as Shattrath provides direct travel to the Isle of Quel'Danas where the Sunwell is located. If not also many High Elves from all around Azeroth.
I can easily see many of the remaining High Elves of the alliance being troubled by the recent proliferation of Void elves into their ranks, as many of them only chose to remain away from Quel'Thalas because of the Blood Elf's use of the very similar corruptible fel magic. The Void elves pose a constant threat to both the High elven, and Blood Elven ways of life, as their presence jeopardizes the sanctity of newly restored Sunwell they all now draw from once again.
I theorize that something will occur with the Void elves, Alleria included, which will drive away many of the remaining High elves back to Quel'Thalas. Perhaps their presence will begin to corrupt nearby High Elves (Justifying the presence of lighter skinned Void Elf customizations, without destroying the lore.) With High elves integrating back into Blood Elven society, this might also provide a reason for Blue eyed Blood elves as well. After all, with practice of siphoning magic going obsolute, and the Blood elves regaining the power of light, many of the differences between them have grown smaller. Also considering that many of the High Elves still have family and friends in Quel'thalas as well.
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Kul'tirans only changed with the expansion. Until now they looked identical to the other humans. You can still see this from vanilla all the way through legion.
Kael'thas changed the name of his people. When he did that he literally changed his people to a new "race" as they no longer call themselves high elves. They dont identify as high elves. The people who didnt follow him still call themselves high elves.
Also, we dont just want the silver covenant as the race. We want the other inhabitants of lodges around azeroth included in this. It's time for them to reunify as a people.
Chances are if they're going to reunify, they're going to do it by rejoining Silvermoon. Which will likely happen when Void elves get their lighter skin tones.
Alleria's high elves are more like the Blood Elves than they are like the remnant High elves, as the remnants have all but abandoned their elven culture in favor of Alliance customs, while Alleria's elves maintain their roots as they've remained together in one location, and not scattered among Azeroth. Many of them have longed to return home during their stay in Azeroth, and it's very likely that they make up most of the High elves that frequent Quel'Danas with Auric Sunchaser to visit the Sunwell.
I have the impression that the Void will corrupt Alleria in some way, causing the elves to defect. With their leader having succumbed to the Void, her remaining elves will likely have no reason to remain with the Alliance, and return home to their friends and family back in Quel'Thalas.
I don't think it'd be up to Alleria to unify them, now that she's the leader of the Void Elves. If anyone it'd probably be Vereesa, seeing as she's unified High Elves before. Wouldn't be a stretch for her to unify all remaining High Elves under a single banner
I don't see High Elves returning to Silvermoon on mass either. Many of them surely still have family and friends there, but they stayed with the Alliance for a reason, and are now labeled as traitors by the Blood Elves
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Chances are if they're going to reunify, they're going to do it by rejoining Silvermoon. Which will likely happen when Void elves get their lighter skin tones.
Alleria's high elves are more like the Blood Elves than they are like the remnant High elves, as the remnants have all but abandoned their elven culture in favor of Alliance customs, while Alleria's elves maintain their roots as they've remained together in one location, and not scattered among Azeroth. Many of them have longed to return home during their stay in Azeroth, and it's very likely that they make up most of the High elves that frequent Quel'Danas with Auric Sunchaser to visit the Sunwell.
I have the impression that the Void will corrupt Alleria in some way, causing the elves to defect. With their leader having succumbed to the Void, her remaining elves will likely have no reason to remain with the Alliance, and return home to their friends and family back in Quel'Thalas.
I don't think it'd be up to Alleria to unify them, now that she's the leader of the Void Elves. If anyone it'd probably be Vereesa, seeing as she's unified High Elves before. Wouldn't be a stretch for her to unify all remaining High Elves under a single banner
I don't see High Elves returning to Silvermoon on mass either. Many of them surely still have family and friends there, but they stayed with the Alliance for a reason, and are now labeled as traitors by the Blood Elves
High elves aren't labeled "traitors" by the Blood elves, many Blood elves such as Halduron Brightwing and Tae'thelan Blood watcher stated that they hold no hard feelings or grudges against the Quel'dori. Even referring to both the High elves and Blood elves as all "Children of Silvermoon" collectively, going as far as vowing to free all elves from their addiction, and unite them all as the proud race they once were.
I don't think Alleria's intention will be to unify the Quel'dorei, but rather her connection to the void might effect, or cause the High elves to flee back to Quel'thalas. We've already seen first hand what can happen, as Alleria was used as a conduit to summon the void to attack, and almost destroy the Sunwell. In the three sister's comic she stated that the only thing that stands between her and the void is her love for her son, and Turalyon, but then admitted that she suspects that not even their love will be enough in the end. After all, it was the use of siphoning magic, and dealing with the foul fel magic that made many of the High elves abandon their homes in the first place, and the only thing worse than Fel magic I'd imagine is the void, as it threatens their very way of life.
11/13/2018 11:23 AMPosted by Softsong...
You must have forgotten about Varessa who has literally been the one leading the High Elves since WotLK. Alleria didnt show up until legion and pretty much hasn't said shes rejoining either the high elves or blood elves. It's like shes the middle sibling and choosing a path between her two sisters.
Also, Alleria doesnt have a lot of normal high elves following her. Like what two npcs in the void elf starting area? She got blood elves to follow her. Not high elves.
Vereesa leads a small partisan group of High Elves on Dalaran, but she does not make up the majority. I also believe Alleria stronghold has larger populations of High elves as well. It's also important to remember that in-game populations do not accurately represent the official populations of these settlements, which are likely far larger than what see in-game. It's very likely that the High elves we see at the Sunwell make up many of her forces, (As most do not reside in Stormwind) as Shattrath provides direct travel to the Isle of Quel'Danas where the Sunwell is located. If not also many High Elves from all around Azeroth.
I can easily see many of the remaining High Elves of the alliance being troubled by the recent proliferation of Void elves into their ranks, as many of them only chose to remain away from Quel'Thalas because of the Blood Elf's use of the very similar corruptible fel magic. The Void elves pose a constant threat to both the High elven, and Blood Elven ways of life, as their presence jeopardizes the sanctity of newly restored Sunwell they all now draw from once again.
I theorize that something will occur with the Void elves, Alleria included, which will drive away many of the remaining High elves back to Quel'Thalas. Perhaps their presence will begin to corrupt nearby High Elves (Justifying the presence of lighter skinned Void Elf customizations, without destroying the lore.) With High elves integrating back into Blood Elven society, this might also provide a reason for Blue eyed Blood elves as well. After all, with practice of siphoning magic going obsolute, and the Blood elves regaining the power of light, many of the differences between them have grown smaller. Also considering that many of the High Elves still have family and friends in Quel'thalas as well.
Two simple reasons why the High Elves will not return to Quel'thalas in the short future: They are not welcome in their own homeland, and their homeland is under control of a faction they hate. Many High Elves lost their families and friends in the Second War, namely Alleria, leading a expedition through the Dark Portal in order to deal with the old Horde, followed by volunteers that probably lost everything and have nothing to do but fight their aggressors.
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Vereesa leads a small partisan group of High Elves on Dalaran, but she does not make up the majority. I also believe Alleria stronghold has larger populations of High elves as well. It's also important to remember that in-game populations do not accurately represent the official populations of these settlements, which are likely far larger than what see in-game. It's very likely that the High elves we see at the Sunwell make up many of her forces, (As most do not reside in Stormwind) as Shattrath provides direct travel to the Isle of Quel'Danas where the Sunwell is located. If not also many High Elves from all around Azeroth.
I can easily see many of the remaining High Elves of the alliance being troubled by the recent proliferation of Void elves into their ranks, as many of them only chose to remain away from Quel'Thalas because of the Blood Elf's use of the very similar corruptible fel magic. The Void elves pose a constant threat to both the High elven, and Blood Elven ways of life, as their presence jeopardizes the sanctity of newly restored Sunwell they all now draw from once again.
I theorize that something will occur with the Void elves, Alleria included, which will drive away many of the remaining High elves back to Quel'Thalas. Perhaps their presence will begin to corrupt nearby High Elves (Justifying the presence of lighter skinned Void Elf customizations, without destroying the lore.) With High elves integrating back into Blood Elven society, this might also provide a reason for Blue eyed Blood elves as well. After all, with practice of siphoning magic going obsolute, and the Blood elves regaining the power of light, many of the differences between them have grown smaller. Also considering that many of the High Elves still have family and friends in Quel'thalas as well.
Two simple reasons why the High Elves will not return to Quel'thalas in the short future: They are not welcome in their own homeland, and their homeland is under control of a faction they hate. Many High Elves lost their families and friends in the Second War, namely Alleria, leading a expedition through the Dark Portal in order to deal with the old Horde, followed by volunteers that probably lost everything and have nothing to do but fight their aggressors.
High elves are welcomed in Quel'thalas though, hence why Theron allowed them access to the Sunwell in the first place. If they were not welcomed, he would have very little to not reason to have done this. We were also given insight to Theron's views of the High Elves in the Shadow of the Sun novel when he visits the Quel'lithien lodge, to offer them aid and supplies.
"The blood elves have a somewhat divided opinion on what remains of their high elven brethren. Some, such as Halduron Brightwing and Tae'thelan Bloodwatcher, have expressed no particular grudge or strong feelings towards the quel'dorei remnants; the former has referred to the elven race collectively as the "children of Silvermoon," while the latter has outright stated his intention to free the elves from their addiction, and unite them as the proud race they once were."
Blood elves seem to either have no opinion, or share a strong desire for the reunification of their kind. This in addition to the fact that many Quel'dorei have family, and loved ones that still reside in Quel'thalas, with the only reason for leaving being the difference in opinion on siphoning, and dealing with foul Fel magic. This draws a very close parallel to Alleria's void elves, who's use of the corruptive Void magic was looked down upon from even by the Blood Elves. The difference is void magic threatens their very way of life, and jeopardizes the sanctity of the Sunwell that both High elves and Blood elves now draw upon once again. It is not out of the realm of possibilities that this might drive away many of the High elves who had left Quel'thalas under similar circumstances, and that wastheir home. If their safety and well being is at stake, I don't think they would hesitate. Should the void begin to corrupt High elves, or pose a threat to the remaning High elf population I can easily see them fleeing back to their homes and family in Quel'thalas for protection, as it is one of the few remaining capitals that would welcome them.
This would also provide a rational to why Void elves might have lighter skin tones, and why Blood Elves might begin to have Blue eyes once again.
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Mostly this thread has become some antics with semantics.
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Ok, so we have the Children of Silvermoon/Descendants of the Highborne/Thalassian elves.
As recently as the third war, most of these Thalassian elves became self-proclaimed Sin'dorei. These Blood elves joined the Horde during the Burning Crusade.
A sect of Blood elves went and got void upgrades and, for being exiled and to fight the Burning Legion, they joined the Alliance.
That leaves the Quel'dorei remnants. These High elves are comprised of various groups of differing minor faction loyalty and likely aligned to some degree with the Alliance.
Kul'tirans, as just being more humans, are differentiated by culture and nation. The Dark Iron, Mag'har, and High Mountain are sub-races of dwarves, orcs, and tauren. The Lightforged are a racial fork and a military order. The Nightborne are their own race/racial fork with the Night elves.
Given that besides the very young, every living Blood elf/Sin'dorei remembers being a High elf/Quel'dorei - there is no racial fork or sub-race. Given the dispersed nature of the High elf remnants, there is no nation or cultural foundation.
With Alleria Windrunner throwing in with the Void elves, that leaves the likes of Vereesa Windrunner, Auric Sunchaser, and Saldor Shallowbrook.
So...
1. The High elves still make pilgrimage to the restored sunwell - formal membership of the Alliance is a very bad idea for these elves.
2. Standing shoulder to shoulder with the Void elves? Let's not forget why they ain't Blood elves to begin with.
3. Given #1 and #2, you'd be lucky to get a hearing with any High elf leader, let alone rally all the dispersed factions together to join the Alliance.
As recently as the third war, most of these Thalassian elves became self-proclaimed Sin'dorei. These Blood elves joined the Horde during the Burning Crusade.
A sect of Blood elves went and got void upgrades and, for being exiled and to fight the Burning Legion, they joined the Alliance.
That leaves the Quel'dorei remnants. These High elves are comprised of various groups of differing minor faction loyalty and likely aligned to some degree with the Alliance.
Kul'tirans, as just being more humans, are differentiated by culture and nation. The Dark Iron, Mag'har, and High Mountain are sub-races of dwarves, orcs, and tauren. The Lightforged are a racial fork and a military order. The Nightborne are their own race/racial fork with the Night elves.
Given that besides the very young, every living Blood elf/Sin'dorei remembers being a High elf/Quel'dorei - there is no racial fork or sub-race. Given the dispersed nature of the High elf remnants, there is no nation or cultural foundation.
With Alleria Windrunner throwing in with the Void elves, that leaves the likes of Vereesa Windrunner, Auric Sunchaser, and Saldor Shallowbrook.
So...
1. The High elves still make pilgrimage to the restored sunwell - formal membership of the Alliance is a very bad idea for these elves.
2. Standing shoulder to shoulder with the Void elves? Let's not forget why they ain't Blood elves to begin with.
3. Given #1 and #2, you'd be lucky to get a hearing with any High elf leader, let alone rally all the dispersed factions together to join the Alliance.
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Mostly this thread has become some antics with semantics.
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High elves are welcomed in Quel'thalas though, hence why Theron allowed them access to the Sunwell in the first place.
They are most definitely NOT welcome in Silvermoon. The current blood elf leader told them to leave when they came to help with the Armani. They are allowed pilgrimage to the sunwell. The sunwell is not in silvermoon.
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