The TBC Classic Community wants Dual Spec

There is no win to this scenario in this argument. Why? Because people just don’t get that TBC Classic isn’t the original TBC back in 2007, and some people are still stuck in the past and forgetting that populations and play styles from back then and now are quite different. Half the people who said “no to dual spec” are folks who are in a very populated server with the established guild and have friends to always group up with or people who have luxurious time to play enough to wait for a group.

For those folks who rant about wanting #nochanges don’t understand the grasp of the situation, that WoW is really being pushed down with population, but also TBC Classic/Classic isn’t enough to save the downfall of Shadowlands. What we need is progressive, and a bit of change for the people to enjoy what’s left of the content and will to play the game.

And that is why dual-spec comes into play. Because it will really save the community and encourage people to do more dungeons/raids without feeling pressured to change every time by spending money and keep visiting Orgrimmar/Stormwind City from Shattrath just to change a spec and ask people for summon.

Some low to medium populated servers can barely get any people into the group to level or do dungeons because people have to stick with one spec to solo and quest, and not everyone has the luxury to respec every time just because one party needs heals or tanks, or even DPS.

Comparing to Burning Crusade/Vanilla, the population for TBC Classic is extremely low than when Burning Crusade launched. TBC Classic also had paid boost that made people skip levels and refuse to do Classic Vanilla contents, which gave some issues to those who wanted to do it from scratch. Not to mention, now we have a bunch of 60-70 LVL mages who boosts characters from 1 to 70 by earning gold.

The demand for specs and populations is very low. “Go to populated server then”, or “Go quit the game”, or “Go back to retail”, or not the very least “then level with XYZ spec till 70” is not exactly healthy suggestions, nor it encourages players to stay for this game. If more people quit and if more people stop playing, then there are more lack of dungeon runs and raids and BGs. It creates more imbalance in this community.

Dual Spec is a choice and privilege. If other people want it, then let them use it. But if you are one of those who whine about people wanting it and getting dual spec, and start to rant about quitting the game, maybe it is you that needs to be out. This is a win-win scenario because you get to have more players to do more content, and you get to have people seek specific specs in case if they need heals, they can go from DPS to heal. If they need a tank, they can go from heals to tanks.

Another option is, like the previous posters mentioned, just cut the entire price of talent reset so that people will consider to respec every time without worrying about spending 50g every time they need to change.

Truthfully? I don’t care if people who support #nochanges and anti-dual spec respond to me that I am ruining their old classic immersions through this forum post. Because I played since 2005 to 2021, and I’ve supported WoW and enjoyed Vanilla/TBC/Wrath a lot. But I at least am aware of the reality that TBC Classic will never ever be the same as TBC original. And that’s because people’s play styles, and times are different. Not to mention, population - once again.

“Times change.” - Garrosh Hellscream

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Why cant you people just go play retail man its there and has all the QoL features you want.

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Thank you for proving my statement about what I said about toxicity and causing decline on population.

We get that you earn gold all the time, but it sounds like that’s all you are gonna do, and honestly that’s pretty lonely hill to die on.

WTF does everything you just said even mean? These weren’t issues before TBC. Nice void elf, stop trying to enforce retail onto classic. There’s a reason the vast majority of classic players weren’t retail players. Classic players dont go to retail forums asking them to remove QoL features. This isn’t toxicity either.

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… I am just gonna assume you never went to retail forum and just made that story up.

But also you telling people to go back to retail is literally toxic as it gets. If you don’t want to purchase dual spec, then don’t. Don’t tell others to go back to retail just because you don’t like it.

No one wants to grow old and die like a fossil eating up memberberries thinking about what old Burning Crusade was like.

Dual Spec is not a retail feature. Dual Spec was in development during TBC by the TBC developers. It was first talked about in 2008 at the Blizzard World Wide Invitational:

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Weird, usually the draw of playing Classic expansions is for the gameplay at the time, but now people want to load in all those conveniences they took for granted in Retail.

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Ah yes, waiting over 10 years for classic release to be told we dont want it by Blizzard, than for it to release to be the most successful Blizzard release since classic; to than be told by retail players that not wanting non-tbc changes makes us toxic. LOL. The absolute mad lad nonsense.

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You do realize that Dual Spec was applied at the end of TBC and then Wrath, and it was never started back in retail, right?

You dont need dual spec when you can change spec at any time in any city.

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Yes, we get that you never played post TBC and WOTLK to know dual spec was in the game before retail. But go on. Apparently you just got out of the cave thinking that Classic and TBC Classic only existed yesterday.

Wow thats toxic man you should really chill out on the copium.

You said you quit early in phase 3 of Classic. Why are you so bothered by the idea of Dual Spec? You’re probably going to quit in two months anyways.

There’s also this:

Funny stuff. Level boosting from 1-58 with real money is the best change Blizzard has made, according to Heavywood. Dual Spec? “sToP aSkIng FoR rEtAiL chAnGeS!!!1”

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I am not the one who does nothing but picking up mushrooms in zangarmarsh and shouts about how you don’t need dual spec because you are rich vendoring gray junks.

I am pretty sure you barely played past post TBC patch and WOTLK to understand the existence of dual spec.

Whats your point though?

Oh, just calling out some hypocrisy is all.

You cannot reason someone out of something they haven’t reasoned themselves into.

Naw man I played UO, DAoC, WoW vanilla pre AQ opening up to WOTLK, quitting early Cata. The point is its classic. If you want duel spec wait for it to release, stop trying to force stuff than call people toxic cus youre mad at people for playing the game. Its so easy to make money in TBC that 50g shouldnt be a make or break point of the game for you. Its ezmode hand out thinking. The game is meant to be played, so play it.

This you?

Yeah, that’s you.

I can dig it, I was definitely wrong about the boosts now seeing the retail player reactions to classic. Its okay to admit when your wrong thats part of being a normal human being.