THE success of ARCANE and the problem with Blizzard/Warcraft

I love world of warcraft but I’m truly worried about the future of this IP.

We know the Warcraft movie flopped and that world of warcraft has a problem getting individual from the younger generation to join…I don’t think removing /silly /flirts are going to fix this.

So while blizzard is focused on doing things like this we see Riot also trying to appease into the younger audience… they released one of their characters into Fortnite and this show Arcane is so good compared to the warcraft movie and will resonate so well to the younger generation ( the show is basically about their character Jinx from helpless child to a decent of madness( think joker/Harley Quinn).

So my question is… What is Blizzard doing to appease to the younger generation or will it just become a boomer game?

Riot adding jinx into Fortnite or making a good animated show is also not going to scare away its boomers. Where Warcraft just deleting a bunch of random stuff makes it feel like you’re trying to kick out one demographic to invite another in. you can be inclusive without being exclusive

All of this on top of a Riot MMORPG on the way… y’all have a new hiring quota, maybe make sure they’re young as well cause this game needs to evolve

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Into what, I wonder?
Looks like it already failed to capture anything and it’s evolution will also fail as well

It feels like the changes made are from a mom trying to stay hip with her daughter

Like when they made all the allied race leaders women… it felt very *Avengers endgame look at all our women superheroes" scene

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I think it’s too late for Blizzard to introduce the Warcraft franchise to a younger and more modern playerbase.

A part of LoL’s success might be that MOBAS were and are a pretty popular genre amongst all audiences, while the age of the MMORPG has been over for a few years now.
But what they did right was that they went with the time. They weren’t lazy with their franchise but established huge PR- and social media campaigns with their own music groups (K/DA and True Damage) which are loved by millions of people who don’t even play LoL. Then they invented the game new over and over to stay relevant and keep their old playerbase interested while catering to new ones and now they release a series with a modern steampunk take instead of doing a cheesy and over the top fantasy movie.
Arcane is also something that will have an audience outside of the longtime LoL fans.

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I worry about the future of the game as well but I think Blizzard should focus more on just making a better game.

If you build it; they will come.

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I agree with this. But I think they can’t do it it this point.

One of the promises in WoD was we would never miss flying because they made the world so interesting and fun… With jumping/climbing puzzles. Most of which were badly implemented. And then only gave you resources for the equally lame Garrison.

I don’t think the current group of Dev’s have a concept of fun.

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I don’t think they have a concept of anything tbh

This is also such an insightful find as well.

The thing is I don’t think Warcraft is inherently boomer, I think it could tell young appealing stories and keep this warcraft mythos but honestly it needs to step away from all this cosmic stuff cause you’re not going to get them telling stories about this nonsense…

No one cares about the *Avatar of death wanting to remake the entire universe

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I would agree they certainly have an uphill climb to take on.

I think that this is unfair and an unnecessary comment.

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Torghassel is not fun. I’m not the only one who thinks this. And they, the Dev’s, bet pretty heavily on it in SL.

This makes me think I am correct in saying the above.

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Maybe they would, when it had a compelling backstory with interesting and relatable characters. But we don’t do that here in WoW.

Even worse - a bit of backstory is there, but it’s in books. Nowadays books are not really strong media. Netflix, YouTube and other media is the key, not overprized printed novels with story one would rather see in a game.

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I don’t think Danuser is even capable of that. And is not like he isn’t trying with Sylvanas “I wIl NevEr SurVe”, for the past 6 years

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Mike Jones voice

Back then they didn’t want me, now I’m hot they all over me

What does this even mean though?

Likewise, other than for lulz and tiktok videos, no one cares about raging teens screaming into microphones on their FOTM device du jour about how they have been so wronged in an IP that tells no tale other than to kill as many other people as you can run across.

Probably not, until telling stories about all this cosmic stuff becomes relatable. Warcraft was relatable because everyone can relate to war in one way or another.

The concept of the ethereal and/or death is a bigger story than is possible to be told in a single franchise, not to mention that teams of scientists have tried for eons to wrap their heads around it and haven’t been able to, no group of developers could ever hope to accomplish it. Yet, this is just a game, not (necessarily) an object lesson.

The real story, IMO, is what you take away from it all, who you meet along the way, what redemption there might be for the heartache you may have experienced - Ysera and Vol’Jin are good example of that for those who were truly heartbroken about their fate - and just what is possible. Perhaps the implementation was not perfect, and it definitely wasn’t, but laying claim to the fact that story telling is age-centric is ridiculous IMO.

I mean there’s a reason riot decided to make a TV show about Jinx an orphan villainized by her environment instead of a story about AATROX a demon lord that goal is to kill Gods

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I think the word you are looking for attract, not appease.

Also, a boomer is someone born between 1946 and 1964 (who would be between 57yrs to 75yrs old today) and I highly doubt those people have ever or will ever make up the majority of WoW players.

That’s because too many players are too stupid and self-centred to understand those choices were about the lawsuit, not them.

It already evolved… into the mess it is today: questing downsized and streamlined, levelling made irrelevant, professions no longer a relaxing but useful activity, endless repetitive tasks, endless time-gated tasks, immersion-breaking features like pop-ups, ect.

They need to devolve the game back to its adventure roots, not evolve it.

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This series is being a big hit and I’ve talked with my friends since yesterday, that LoL hasn’t story mode, it’s similar to WoW that you must search in order to understand runaterra world or that some parts are present on short cinematics,

However, Riot is doing great by bringing this animated show, because it will develop characters, races, cities. So, they can cover the lack on story for the broad audience.

This is creating the same effect with Warcraft IP, that people jump to WoW because they knew about Heroes, Classes, Races…etc from W3 mostly, besides LoL already being a successful game, this new show will bring more people to thinkg about the map, how they can put the shadow islands as an expansion, or the Shurima desert…etc Compared to New World that was release but the lack of cinematics in game and the story feels like soulles.
Riot has a big opportunity to bring a new big MMORPG on release, that will depend mostly on systems and gameplay but for previous fame and story on this show will be a big boost to the game marketing.

I’ll be really excited about that mmorpg with magic, steam punk tematics uff.

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It’s abit too late for Blizzard at this point.

Any semi-competent employee will get poached sooner or later, either by Riot or the other ex-Blizzard’s employee startup.

Blizzard is just a stepping stone company at this point.

Sylvanas, Jaina, Tyrande, Garona KPop group confirmed.

All of them are too old to be a Kpop group lol, even Jaina look just as old as her mom.

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