The Sub fee should enable a premium, not earn a right

The merit be changing if 8.2 doesn’t fix it. Defense cannot be maintained if the opponent resorts to name-calling.

Like the moment they disagree, it’s insults. Askton with “troll”, Baruup with “idiot” and so on and so forth. Like if I can explain why my opinion is without drudgery by your side, then I’d be glad to.

@Baruup

Again, I am not Rastlin. He is, not me. I’m just a pro-casual.

Ok so you said you knew that you were going to be flamed for this so I happily obligated myself to do so

Fighting fire with fire gets everyone burned, and is not constructive to the conversation. You either rise above it and disregard the insult, or call it for what it is.

Either defend your stance with logic and reason, or concede that the opinions of others are just as valid as yours. Calling people white knights because they disagree with your stance isn’t doing yourself any favors, especially when he has pointed out the primary flaw in your argument.

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I said it because of an ancient stereotype that Ghostcrawler propagated back in Wrath.

That if WoW ever went F2P either way, I or anyone else was to be flamed for it.

Why can’t we just be friends? :grin:

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Sure. I have Autism and it’s hard to tell friend or foe apart.

@Vaedryn

The primary flaw in my argument was the stereotype, that if WoW ever went F2P in any way, it was deemed “failing”. This was from back in Wrath.

I was just joking with you anyway bud have a good one. Hopefully WOW won’t come to F2P

Never played ESO, but SWTOR was extremely fun!

For ONE month.

(Your idea about sub may be just fine, I dunno)

ESO is actually a pretty good setup, even if your sub lapses, you can still play all your max level characters less access to a few things. Cruise around for a while then resub when you want.

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Buying the game doesn’t entitle you to be given a free win.

You don’t buy Witcher 3 and instantly teleport to the final moments. You need to earn it.

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I’d pay for a premium sub if game services become free like character transfers etc.

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No, the sub fee should remain how it is now. Let’s leave the whole premium crap to those two failed f2p games you mentioned.

No they don’t, SWTOR is especially bad when it comes to how they converted to f2p after they fell on their face.

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Imagine citing TOR as a good example of how a F2P game works. Want to pay real money to unlock running? Or hiding your helmet? Or displaying titles? Or more bagspace? Then TOR is the game for you!

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Never a male human pally around when you need one.

ESO does something like this.
you can play for free if youve purchased the game and expansions.
But if you sub you get extras.

Not entirely a bad idea.
If they had a better system to play for …oh forget it…who am i kidding.
No one is going to want to play this joke game for long once they compare it to pretty much any other game out there.

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Uhh… so, you want WoW to be P2W?

They may do it the way you like, but it is very prohibitive. Not only that, but there are gameplay problems as well…engine is old. It cannot handle all they have added to it very well.

Sad part is it already is.

Did you summon me?

No it’s not. There is nothing p2w about anything in WoW.

You clearly don’t understand what p2w means.

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