The stigma against twinking never warranted this

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You have tried, and I can respect you for that.

I just can’t respect the fact essentially a wolf that’s been let into a farm of lambs, and now that the farmer built a fence you’re getting all pouty.

It’s true to say that if one side in a BG has even one twink, they’re probably going to win. A twink can go against five people and win. It’s simply not fair. And for the record, I’ve tried doing what you suggested - I looked into what the best enchants were for my BoA gear.

It didn’t do anything to stop me from getting two-shot by a Balance druid in BiS gear for the WotLK bracket. Which immediately caused me to regret my life decisions cause those enchants cost me 10k on my server and it was worth nothing in the end.

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I don’t really pvp much, but have enjoyed the various levels of play for years. With every expansion it seems they push to make everything and everyone focus on the current max level. I really don’t understand the total disregard for the many levels, zones, dungeons, battlegrounds, or sense of RPG in the lower levels.

This thread is another example of this growing problem. Sorry, guess big brother blizzard wants you playing your pvp games at max level.

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said by one of your litty fellow twinks in another thread this is the “twink community”:

twinks vs non twinks exist only:

  • anti fun
  • unbalance (beyond that pvp is even in max level these days)
  • creates nothing but a stigma against pvp in general in this game well earned with a community like this on leveling phase.
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You need to grow up. Saying that was completely inappropriate and out of line. Smashies was at least decently cordial in her dissents.

You’re being childish.
It undermines your argument.

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Seconded. Ten character requirement.

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Nobody’s saying it’s impossible to fight a twink - yes, with a lot of determination, and the right class, it is possible to beat one. However you can say that about almost anything.

And when you go up against a twink, playing a class with decent self-heals (usually a hybrid) with an equally twinked healer friend … Suddenly all the counterplay in the world feels like beating your head against a wall.

There’s already only so much you can do with the tools you’re given at a lower level, trying to beat a twink healer with no interrupt and limited CC is agonizingly irritating. Not impossible, no, just incredibly unfun.

The problem with twinks is that they make low level PvP an uphill nightmare battle, not that they’re gods.

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I’m leveling through the brackets with this guy and melt everyone I encounter because low level rogues are beast. The only thing enchanted are boas, which is what your typical player would be wearing while leveling up.

Why do people think xp-off twink removal is going to make things better for them? If you join up with a bunch of empty slots, of course you are going to get global’d. The point of the game is to get gear and make your character stronger.

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said by one of your litty fellow twinks in another thread this is the “twink community”:

His views do not necessarily match mine. That’s why I’m making a thread like this, and not like that.

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This is the best news I have heard in a long long time. My old favorite thing to do in WoW was leveling alts through bg’s. Since they put the twinks back, I have stopped doing that. I tried for a while, but it was just miserable.

Now I can start again. I could not be happier and I would like to thank Blizzard from the bottom of my heart.

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Thank you, I hadn’t noticed his post against me until I was scrolling down. :heart:

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You guys should probably make it a habit to call out these guys, then.

They don’t exactly make you guys look good, do they?

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I have twinked a couple of characters but I’ve never done it below around level 90. The reason for that is that I can’t see any purpose in doing it other than to make life impossible for those non-twink players starting out in pvp/battlegrounds.

If people want to twink, that’s fine, I have no issue with it because its fun to do. I enjoy working towards gearing up my characters (I have a 119 druid Im planning to run through TW atm to get her some gear) but doing it on a level 29 toon just seems awfully twee to me.

I’m beginning to think that lower level players who aren’t twinked should be able to queue separately if they want to. By the time they get to the higher levels they should be prepared to put in the work if they want to be able to stand toe-to-toe with those who have taken the time to improve their characters.

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Forgive me Smashies I don’t know how to quote on the new forums (I don’t visit often)

First and foremost I wanted to say thank you for keeping things professional and cordial and not rising to a lot of the bait people are throwing at you, or acting like some of your contemporaries.

Secondly, I wanted to say in regards to the idea you presented in my earlier post about separating new players from veteran players:

I don’t think it’s a terrible idea if some kind of personal MMR system existed for low level brackets, but the population of players who pvp while leveling is already so low, I don’t see Blizzard putting time or effort into designing or refining a system for it. I think it is much easier for them to just put twinks in their own xp-off pvp queue.

I understand that it means your queue times are very low, and I think that really sucks, because as much as I want the newbies to enjoy their pvp experience, I also want the the Twink community to have an enjoyable experience.

I think what a lot of the twink community have to do is look introspectively and ask themselves if the thing about twinking they enjoy is the prospect of min/maxing a character, or if they just want to absolutely obliterate anyone who hasn’t put hundreds of hours into a low level toon.

Obviously there are plenty of people who just want the latter, but I’m sure there are many who only want the former.

In any case I think while you’re waiting and hoping for Blizzard to do something about it, a solid solution would be to raise awareness for the value and benefit of twinking. Make more people see the fun side of it, and hopefully that will garner a bigger audience. And if the audience for twinking gets bigger then Blizzard won’t be able to ignore it anymore.

Anyway thats my two cents.

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again op editing and thinking this is good for twinks while it’s the other way around… twinks should fight other twinks, if you turn off experience face other people with the same option period.

your “fun” is basically 2 shoting others and thinking you’re good at the game because someone carried you through dungeons/raids and you got the bis gear…

for the sake of bringing back players twinks MUST have their own separate queues back… dev’s should realize that their decisions must be aimed towards gaining more players not making them leave.

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I enjoy leveling toons in BGs.

Recently, when leveling my 110s to 120, I consistently ran into twinking moonkins who would farm the graveyard. I did not find this fun.

I pay my sub just as much as you.

I can, and will, be in this conversation.

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He said …

Just report him and move on.

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That’s a twink problem, no one else’s.

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When the queues are seperate you guys don’t get matches because most twinks just want to steamroll over levelers and new players. When they can no longer do that, they don’t queue.

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It also isn’t twinks fault that people don’t want to gear for Bgs.

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do you even read how dumb that sounds? “GEARING UP FOR LEVELING BGS” :roll_eyes:

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