The State of Monk

I could just play AT but its pretty far below CF for some fights. I still play AT whenever I can get away with it. I don’t care too much for parsing in raid.

Rashok: Play AT for ~180k hps OR play CF for 210k HPS. That’s almost a 15% difference. I should be playing CF because I have all the gear to make the build work perfectly.

Also would be great if we didn’t try to avoid mastery like it was the plague. I don’t remember mastery being this avoided even in BFA. I’m at 762 mastery. Only reason I have the extra 232 mastery is from sporecloak. I can’t believe how bad mastery is for raiding atm.

It’ll get a bit better after the Font of Life change. Adding 25% to essence font initial bolts is really big. This is a good change.

The recent change to our damage being increased by 10%. They should have left Atonement / AT at the 40/150% amount. Lets be honest, MW and Disc are not breaking any records currently in M+ or raid.

I hope they take note and fix some of our other talents that don’t get used. We still have a very good tree but it could be improved greatly.

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Alright! I’ve tested both builds on same fight! Unstable is a good description for current MW in raid.

Both builds at ~210k hps on clean-ish pulls. TBF I’m much better at the AT build.

Rashok 6min 30sec fight doing AT build.

Soulfang Infusion 256653 0 256653
Blessing of Winter 82686 0 82686
Molten Radiance 72530 0 72530
Aerated Mana Potion 55200 6631 48569
Spirit of the Crane 49612 1241 48371
Source of Magic 23428 0 23428
Mana Spring 7350 300 7050
sum = 539,287 ← Not counting Mana Tea

Rashok 6min 30sec fight doing CF build.

Soulfang Infusion 300430 0 300430
Molten Radiance 117304 0 117304
Source of Magic 48237 1799 46438
Spirit of the Crane 31007 1696 29311
Aerated Mana Potion 27600 0 27600
Mana Spring 7500 0 7500
Symbol of Hope 6817 0 6817
sum = 535400 ← No BoWinter
Also had Innervate x2 + Mana Tea
Used over 1,000,000 mana

That’s a big problem. No reason we should be going through that much mana. I get nervous thinking about next season when we have a diff tier set. Our dev needs to look into our mana problems. Would it make us OP to lower the mana cost of vivify / EF?? They could halve both of these spells.

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I would really like or love to learn how to do 180K dps. I get that its in Mythic Raid and the damage is demanding higher hps but I can’t touch that. I am only 437ilvl and can’t get to 100K hps. I feel lost this with this patch compared to SL.

I have been researching and testing and replaying logs from you peeps doing that much hps and I am for the most part following the same rotation - I just cant figure out how to get better on my mistweaver now.

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i will reply with a touch of info you didn’t bring up “just in case.” you didn’t check these.

it can depend who your co healers are in a raid. for instance in my guild, i don’t press my healing nearly as much because i trust the healers to not need me. i end up focusing a lot more on damage. it’s also based on how much damage your raid is taking. so depending on how good/bad your team uses personals can impact it as well.

if you look at my season 1 healing i am pumping vivify for instance and this season i am focusing a lot more on damage as my co-healers are cracked.

Your best logs only show you hitting 137k on the one heroic fight, haven’t even done the mythic Rashok yet. Where are you getting180 - 210k hps?

The 6:30 mark.

I just need the raid group to make the DPS check

Its not like there’s more to the fight and my HPS will go down.

I’ve actually given up HPS for DPS last Wed to help meet hte check. Another reason I wont be doing the CF build.

The mana is more of the point as of lately.

I’m not very good at CF but here’s 1 of my better pulls with it.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YyrxjAdMVGvbwfcT#fight=6&type=healing

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the point being made is how wildly different these 2 builds perform. their play patterns are so vastly different that they feel like different specs.

don’t worry though blizzard saw this monk post and made another paladin rework :^]

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