~ The Solo Player ~ dying out in SL

I am curious if Pay to win buying content from content sellers is what you mean by working as intended?

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If you are a solo player like me, join rated bgs. Look in the group finder for low cr no voice teams and sign up. They play out like usual random bgs except the teams are more balanced and the games are actually fun to play.

Doesn’t take long to get 1400cr and you can upgrade to ilvl207.

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I do not understand the loot complaints- not directed to the OP really, just to those who say casual players cannot get gear.

I play 1.5 - 2 hours a day, my run is pretty straightforward and well documented in my mind. Beast of bastion, kill 4 rare mobs. Then trial of purity. Then any nearby rare mobs and WQs. Off to maldraxxus for bet on yourself, then any nearby rare bosses and WQs. Then i am off for any elite wq. Then I can call it.

In these 2 hours i see 2-3 epics and 300-500 anima.

On the weekend I’ll run a mythic 0, then a mythic 1 for a vault piece.

That’s 15+ epics a week. Just what’s the problem? I do not raid, I do not grind mytics - so how can i expect ilvl 219+ gear?

IIRC I have a 213, several 200s, and some 190s. I think that’s pretty good for casual - and they are all useful!

:partying_face:

What exactly does a casual player want or need?

Never saw the use of “it was one bad experience” or “the whole player base is nothing but 12 year olds”

And here you are calling others Judgmental.

nice.

Bleh but I digress.

Dying in Shadowlands, anywhere for that matter, but it seems SL is pretty bad at graveyard placement, leaves you jogging slowly back to your corpse.
Why do we jog?
Why cant we fly as a spirit?
Why is it that we still have to navigate the terrain as a spirit getting back to our bodies?
What game function does this serve?

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Welcome to my world, it ain’t for the faint of heart.

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As someone who lived in Boston, for those who don’t know, drive to Boston in the mornings takes HOURS. I paid double rent for 3 months at some point because spending 6 hours in car daily was just too much. And that was only 30 miles away from the city.

But to the OP’s point.
Shadowlands is funny this way.
To do PvP - you must PvP. Fair.
To do PvE - you must PvE.

so many players have hit the top ilvl by now due to PvP gearing. It is easier to get PvP gear in a longer run. Sure, you can 226 PvE piece once a week, but you also can get x2 pvp piece, and the SECOND you get high enough rank, you upgrade them all.

Getting full 226 PvP is "easier’ than getting full PvE 226. Quotation marks because getting 2200 rating is not easy today, but it was on week 1-2.

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Yes I am a Solo player in a Persistent world with thousands of others, and would like to engage with them.

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oh, i dont have those problems. i really enjoy the people i raid with. op needs an old farts guild, there is usually one on every server.
but that doesnt change that Blizzards new loot philosophy is pretty unrealistic as a long term gameplan. People play to get stuff.
there just isnt that much stuff for the solo player to get very far.

That will always be the case, I don’t think the life or style of the game makes any difference. Not everyone is great at every activity in a game, not everyone is lousy, and there is no sin in being ‘mediocre’, if that means middle-of-the-road performance wise. I would say it isn’t being a poor player so much as it is a lazy one. I’ve seen very experienced players treat the game and its mechanics with distain and believe that any failure on their part is due to others. That’s poor attitude, not poor play.

As I have said in other threads, its interesting watch people post baffled at what casual players want, or stating that’s just how mmos are.

Its just blatantly untrue. OP in honesty there are multiple other mmos out there now that are just way better for people with time constraints.

Even if you want to be a WoW welfare recipient of loot by sitting in Orbidos and then doing dailies for gear, why would you? Its not fun at all.

This game is built around a hardcore mindset now. At best you get mediocre loot for shutting up and avoiding the game.

FFXIV, ESO, GW2, SWOTOR are just better casual player experiences now imo.

But most of all, in general those communities are more mature and less judgemental as well. And this is a big one for me as I get older.

WoW is an esport that throws a few bones at normal people.

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I feel you ive been stuck at ilvl200 bc i cant get any higher gear and the only way is to get to rank 1400 but i cant bc i have 30k hp vs 35-44k hp players got tired of losing so canceled my sub this week

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Ok Boomkin

This is not correct. you have to get 1400 plus rated to even uograde gear making it harder bc all the high pve gear players block the path no chance when you have 30k vs 5-44k players at the same rank that im stuck at 1300

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I feel your pain old solo brother. I either want a way to catchup at my own pace or have random bgs capped at ilvl 197. Making the arena guy with 200+ gear have a separate set of gear for random solo queue bgs isn’t a lot to ask. Heck I have a pvp and pve set of gear i swap.

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I play WoW more then players in Arena do! I play couple hours a day, and many hours on the weekends. Issue isn’t time, its interest…

I don’t like Arena, I cannot stand people running around a pillar I just cant stand it. RBGs are cool, but I have no one to RBG with.

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Traditional PvP gear would fix ur issue with getting yoloed. Very few players had the 2100 rating gear back then so everyone mostly had the same gear on in pvp unless it was a new character.

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If they capped Random BGs at 197-210 I’d be fine with it! 13 Ilvls is still an advantage but not an insurmountable one!

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this is pretty much all there would be to do in Shadowlands for me

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I solo play and gear doesn’t seem hard to get.

It’s not all about gear as well. Conduits , renown, and slots to get as well. You get most from open world, quest, rep.

Then gear you just play.

ilvl cap for unrated BGs have been suggested by quite a good amount of people, but fell on deaf ears.

It’s stupid to lose to a clearly much less skilled player because they have double my HP due to being carried to high ilvl by his guild in M+.

I think that at the very least, random BGs should have some semblance of fairness. If I don’t get that in later patches, I’m done with WoW.

I am on the same boat as you: I’m old, almost all my friends quit, those who stayed changed realms to avoid being discriminated, my play times are mostly when no one is playing, or when Oceanic players are, which is terrible for me since I get into their instances, pumping my latency to 500ms+, and that is unplayable in PvP, and barely tolerable in PVE.

Even better than ilvl caps would be a way to keep progressing without being tied to ratings, even if it was slower.

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