I had a boe high ilvl drop in Heroic dungeon… So, I don’t know may higher chance in mythic raids for a 226 and reg dungeon is random with lower drop rate. it was weird. my friends lol when i put it on think it was a bop. So, I flush a few 100k down but i was in shock as well seeing an ilvl that high in heroic dungeon.
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Dude, I’m 50. I’ve been playing for 17 years now. When I started playing the game I was early 30s (and I had been playing MMOs for several years by that point). Even then we were using voice comms like Ventrilo, Team Speak and even Skype. I even hosted my own Ventrilo server. Do people joke around sometimes in voice chat? Sure, just like we all do in real life. Mostly I use voice chat for group content and the players who I play with, who are a varied range of ages, from young 20 somethings to old farts like me, know when to stop with the “fart jokes” so that we can get down to business.
There’s no functional difference between Discord or any of these older voice chat programs. It serves a role in gaming that isn’t just about teenagers being dumb and stupid, which there’s also plenty of IRL. If you don’t want to be on a chat server because you want to play solo, that’s fine. I don’t spend all day in a chat server either, but that doesn’t mean I can’t utilize the tool for what it’s good for.
Also, and I say this often enough that it’s starting to hurt my brain, why the heck are you playing a game that’s been designed from the ground up to be social if all you want to do is play a single player game by yourself?
Does “social” mean 24/7 --spending inordinate time away from real life?
We learned years ago, by 2008, spending 12+ hours a day in a game, is harmful to daily life. Blizzard learned it too. They knew they had to provide ways for solo gamers to do the content.
It is the MORE responsible people that play with moderation.
Adults have work, college, careers, families. It’s just reality. The game is not real life.
Millions of people years ago, realized going overboard with the game is not conducive to real life. It is not a badge of honor to spend excessive amounts of time playing the game.
Even moderate players have to spend too much time as it is. Logging on, doing WQ’s and Torghast and what ever basics, takes hours.
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Outside of an active guild a lot of people have to pug for group content. Depending on what it is it’s extremely competitive. You might be waiting a while. Part of the appeal of just sticking to solo stuff is not having to deal with any of that. A lot of solo content is in the game. I think if anything, they need to expand on solo content or make something scale to solo content. The social part of this game has been butchered a long time ago. For every pleasant, normal human being you meet out there, there’s people you wish you’d never run into. For me, I’m not interested too much in grouping for hard content. I want to avoid bad drama if possible. I want to spend my free time freely. Not bound to guild commitments. Want to log in a few hours and enjoy myself, enjoy that druid fantasy. So there needs to be more content for the solo artists out there. It’s a myth that this game is social, there are many elements to it decidedly unsocial or dare I say, antisocial. It’s a problem that’s been festering for a while, that problem isn’t getting better it seems, so a vector to avoid it altogether seems like a nice way to go.
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Meanwhile, raid loggers have done the hardest content in the game playing most of the expansion a few hours a week.
Being able to pause/saving Torghast without exiting would be a very good thing.
Stop penalizing moderate players and guildless, by depriving them of the same rewards. A raid could be presented as full difficulty, LFR/LFG. One boss at a time, without out the control freaks and drama prone wackiness. High Raider IO score nonsense only means—“this person has a LOW real life score.” or they are wow hermits. So who is unsocial?
There are only so many hours in a day.
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There’s a bit of difference between Discord and Vent/TS. Vent/TS players used for VC only. Discord has it’s own chat which does mean an outside window that you have to monitor vs the in-game Guild chat.
On VC you’re correct they’re essentially the same. The only diff now is Discord has a separate chat which most people use instead of guild chat which I find to be really counter productive.
Man, I just want solo M+ and raids. I love WoW but the group content needs to be optional because I too am a solo player and find it hard to gear up unless i force myself into pugs or guild which I dont like
You nailed it! ^^^^
Nonsense. A “few hours a week”. It takes a few hours a day just tying your shoes in Wow.
I’ve heard this elitist nonsense since the beginning of Wow. I saw it first hand years ago.
It’s nothing short of magical thinking.
Whatever you want to pretend is true chief. You do you.
The freaking game director does it. You’re lying to say it’s not happening.
Or the mouth breathers. Good god, push to talk people. It’s my main reason for choosing to stream music over getting into a discord call.
I’m solo for the most part. I’ll occasionally group up to do things, but for the most part, I’m right up against the wall as well. And I’m fine with that. My current gear supports what I’m doing (although I wouldn’t be upset if I could do it easier). The extra time I’ve gained allows me to work on other games I’ve been neglecting, like Satisfactory and Valheim. 
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Here is what I hear from all the try hards on here defending why they need better gear:
I have beaten my head against the wall till my face was bloody, I blackened both my eyes and knocked myself silly. If you can have gear like mine, I am going to look like a fool for doing all that to. myself.
What ever happened to the line the try hards used? “We don’t do it for the gear, we like the challenge”?
This right here. If they step back and look at their arguments essentially they’re saying that raiding and harder M+ isn’t fun because if there was an easier means to get the reward they would do that instead.
If that’s the case then what you’re doing right now isn’t fun to you, the only thing you find fun is the reward.
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boomers shouldnt be playing retail anyways go play classic and let the zoomers enjoy retail
Explain why somebody between the ages of 62 and 75 should be excluded from this game? While you’re at it, with that chip on your shoulder, explain also how sowing seeds of derision through ageism somehow makes the world a better place, a world you currently occupy, that’s partly your world too.
As page after page complains how they don’t get any decent drops in mythic as they rage against the mythical “casuals,” insisting they are special and the only players worthy.
“Zoomers,” what ever that is, need to be busy in Real life, more than anyone—it’s not as though they make a living and are having a career, by playing wow 16 hours a day.
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This is how it already works with catch-up gear on patches.
So we don’t need to change anything. Great!
This is the part that younger players don’t seem to get, and respond with “why play a multiplayer game if you don’t want to interact with people?” or “the nature of online communication has changed, get with the times, gramps”.
/sigh