Took me a week and a half of playing 5+ hours everyday to get from 210 to 215
I’m 53 - been playing since around 2009ish? I haven’t raided in quite a few years - I did for a while back in WoTLK and Cata and just a smidge in WoD but nothing since. I have felt that wall before in WoD and a bit in BFA but nothing like now. Now it feels quite derisive. I work sure, but I could still fit raiding into my schedule like many others do, but I don’t want to. I just don’t want that commitment anymore. I just want to putz around and do my own thing. Usually, there’s plenty of things for a put’zer such as myself to do and feel some progress - within my scope. But I do feel now something of ashamed or not wanted now, like my participation here in this universe is invalid and of no worth. So I feel this I’m losing my little refuge of fun and the game has been designed to edge me, and others like me, out completely.
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Unless you increase difficulty, your results will remain the same. It would be like me putting in 2x the amount of in game time as a mythic Raider, and saying since I’ve put in hundreds upon hundreds of hours of running normal dungeons, I should be at 220 ilvl as well
Again, BGs are entry level content for PvP =/ can’t expect to upgrade past its max potential if that’s the only thing you do
That’s you projecting that out there. If you’re just putzing that’s totally ok and you’ve got super easy to get, pretty much normal raid level gear to do it in. Nothing in the open world should be a threat to you if you’ve taken full advantage of your covenant set, WQ, and mission table.
Brilliantly written! This is me… UNless you are a Rated 1800+ with Achievements player you are Garbage, Unless you have Mythic Achievements you are Garbage, then add unless you have the appropriate Covenant and conduits, and Specc, and Class you are Garbage.
The Elitist attitude has gone to far, its a frigging video game, supposed to illicit fun, happiness… Getting crushed by the Elite is not fun.
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Sounds like you are asking blizzard to fix your real life problems…which is asking alot.
The Entry level needs a bump so to stay within 15 ilvls of the top.
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It’s not that really, the shaming part comes largely from here, the forums. In game, sure I’m equipped to go do quests for 3 anima. Not interested. There’s nothing for me interesting to do here and I’m walled at where I can go. You mythic + or die, you raid or die. That’s it. I have not felt that way before. I feel that way now. Is it just me? Or is it the current design? I am gonna have to go with the current setup.
Why does anyone care if another casual pulls ship, it doesn’t matter. And besides, from a lot of what I read here (with a grain of salt obviously), I feel like casuals are second class citizens and they are being pressured to either leave or shut the h*ll up. I mean if that’s what people want, who am I to argue?
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That’s like my nearly 73 year old dad being into Post Malone 
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What kind of essential worker ? if you don’t mind me asking
Not at all, I’m pretty happy actually. I just like playing the game and feeling some satisfaction with progression - I guess it boils down to this - not really crazy about this expansion. I’m probably more sappy sounding at the moment because it’s been a stressful week at the office (audit just wrapping up - my eye is still twitching).
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I am a Facilities Manager for a Distributor in New England, I also repair, diagnose issues on our Delivery Trucks, Equipment, Packaging etc. so Products, Food, Beer/ Wine can be delivered to stores in and around the surrounding States.
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Unfortunately, this game is an MMORPG. You are meant to interact with other players to progress your character. Casuals have no need of high ilvl gear if they aren’t willing to put in the work to get it. If someone ran a +5 dungeon, they deserve +5 loot. Allowing a casual that did no challenging content to get it, would remove sense of progression from the player that completed the +5.
Ah, OP. I don’t play like you do, but I, too, just want to play more or less the way I always did. I hate the abstract systems upon systems.
I just want clear, simple paths to getting more powerful and I want to feel more powerful when I bash on things out in the world or in dungeons or LFR. NO scaling. No dribbles of substance X to fill up some bar so I can get some ability that doesn’t seem to have much effect. Sure my numbers may increase, but a ton of us out here are not checking meters and numbers. We measure progress the same way we always did, beginning with something like “Hogger didn’t kill me!”
I miss gems and enchants that mattered. I miss WoW that wasn’t designed by theorycrafters. Where are the devs who understand that ALL players need to feel like they rock at some point in the game? Feeling matters.
Anyway, thanks for posting this and I hope they fix your playstyle, OP. I don’t think they will ever fix mine.
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Actually I have every right to tell you how to play the game because I don’t want your asinine ramblings to influence my favorite game, one that is finally returning to the roots that made it so great in the beginning.
Wow is a multiplayer game. period. If you can’t handle that then go find another game, cuz I want to KEEP playing “WORLD” of Warcraft, not “One man wolf pack” of Warcraft.
Restaurant industry here so I’m kind of considered essential.
It’s amazing how many more people want to eat out or get delivery now compared to before the pandemic.
Why is this the go to argument? As son as I log into the game I am surrounded by other players, I join Bgs I am playing with others.
You all are taking the Solo player way out of context.
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That’s not how that works…
That’s like saying bump minimum wage up to within 50% of Amazon’s CEOs salary.
You have to put in the work to get the rewards. You want to progress past entry level? Then do things beyond entry level.
Entry level stops around 200…which…means you’re at the max for your effort level. That’s fair.
And if we look at ilvl disparities.
Fresh 60 = 150
Random BG = 200
Conquest Caps = 220
From the 70 ilvl jump from a fresh 60, you being at 200, you’re at 81.5% power. At minimal effort. Someone putting in max level effort only gains 28.5% more power than you, as opposed to you gaining a 75% boost over a fresh 60. For minimal effort.
I feel that’s fair?
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Because, being surrounded by others simply is not enough. You have to do content with other people and progress. That is the point of the game and has been the point of the game since vanilla WoW. You have always relied on other people to progress. BfA and even Legion took away from that substantially and it hurt the game.
Don’t bother with logic Grizzle, these babies will just whine until they can get all our gear with no effort. They blame all their problems on lack of gear, when they’re just bad.