…is not just that it’s a shot-for-shot remake of Mists of Pandaria, but that no one seems to realize that it’s a shot-for-shot remake of Mists of Pandaria.
Baine swore that he’d never again support a genocidal tyrant, yet he’s going along with another one.
Eitrigg opposed Garrosh, who was downright tame in comparison to Sylvanas, who he fanatically supports.
Anduin hasn’t once realized that he’s done this dance before.
The Horde doesn’t seem to grasp that they’re being misled by a lunatic (again) and their only hope is fomenting a rebellion (again) with a lone dissenter (again).
Blizzard’s writing has been largely mediocre with a few flashes of excitement, but this is…just so disheartening to see. It feels like Blizzard doesn’t really care about the quality of their product anymore and doesn’t trust its playerbase to know the difference.
In all the Q&A sessions, dissatisfaction with the story is very rarely covered (the one time it happened, Ion said that the Burning of Teldrassil wouldn’t happen like we thought it would, then it did), so I don’t hold out much hope of the developers taking notice of this, but your story is silly, Blizzard, your customers aren’t.
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Ion can’t sweet talk about how bad the story writing has been lol
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No, I did.
It’s incredibly bad. The Hero of the Horde is consigned to stealing corpses and attacking civilians.
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I see this analysis of BFA’s story a lot, and part of me believes people that think this did not read the short stories “A Good War” and w/e the Alliance counter part was. It sets up this entire war perfectly. Sure, from an extremely broad sense, this has similarities to Garrosh. But its also quite different.
My first point is that technically, you can draw this war’s start to back in Legion, and that Greymane started it. Let me explain this in simple terms so it makes sense. In Stormheim, a HIGH RANKING OFFICAL OF THE ALLIANCE, POSSIBLY THE RIGHT HAND TO ANDUIN HIMSELF, ATTEMPTED TO ASSASSINATE OUR WARCHEIF.
Can you imagine something like that happening in the real world? The Horde is supposed to just forget that they tried to off our LEADER? This is explained THOROUGHLY in A Good War and Saurfang agrees with Sylvanas here. As far as they know, Greymane receieved no backlash from Anduin for this mission.
So that leaves Sylvanas with one option. I must eradicate the Alliance before they themselves eradicate us. Its the classic story of kill them before they kill us.
I feel I have to bring this up a lot, because so many of you cherry pick whatever part of the story you want to really reinforce your own narrative of why you believe the story is bad.
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Actually, this whole analysis is more accurate than you think, since MoP’s story was criticized for putting key points of the plot in extraneous errata.
Unfortunately, that only confirms Blizzard’s low opinion of their customer base, since they think they can get away with it again.
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I mean I will credit you that, I also believe things like A Good War and other parts of the story that exist outside the game need representation inside the game equally, but that doesn’t excuse you to cherry pick the information you want to keep your own narrative bias alive.
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There’s no narrative bias going on here, friend. There are no such things as factions in real life. We’re both just consumers who are getting ripped off.
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You see, that’s why it’s different from MOP. This time, the Horde doesn’t care that their leader is a lunatic!!!
But seriously, the current war story sucks and I’m just waiting for the Azshara stuff in 8.2.
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Well then any discussion we have here is fruitless. You want so badly to be the victim of some big bad company who is stealing money out of your pocket, that you could never see anything but that. I am sorry you feel that way, and I hope you find greener pastures.
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Sounds Biblical.
I’m all about standing up for the Horde in most cases, but Greymane taking out Sylvanas is completely deserved. His only reason for joining the Alliance (temporarily) was as a tool to exact revenge on her. She cast the first stone. There’s no denying this. Lorderon refugees don’t play a part in this, quarantining yourselves from infected people is generally considered a good decision. On top of that, they were containing the threat of the worgen while trying to figure out how to control it.
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But that’s what makes the story compelling. Sure, from Greymane’s perspective, Sylvanas ruined his homeland, killed his son, destroyed his Kingdom, etc etc. But from our perspective, it was orders from Garrosh. Do you not see how this makes it feel alive? Or does everyone playing WoW truly wish the narrative to be so blatantly 2D that we have a big bad guy that everyone hates and we use the power of friendship to defeat him in the end.
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And I hope your unblinking and utter devotion to Blizzard is rewarded, friend.
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Ah there it is, the “You disagree with me, therefore you are a blizzard shill, time to keep my cognitive bias stronger than ever that I am always correct in my understanding of everything”
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Friend, you’re the one that accused any criticism of Blizzard coming from a desire to be a victim. You can’t argue that other people are acting in bad faith when you yourself also are.
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Heck no, it’s the World of Warcraft. That’s why the game is played from 2 perspectives, and I play both equally. My wife, kids and I play Alliance, and I play Horde with my daughter. Not to sound corny, but my heart is with the Horde, specifically Orcs, Tauren, and Trolls. I’ve played a Forsaken Priest for 13 years, and do it for the villainous feel. Buahahaha.
What? people have been saying this from the get go.
My biggest gripe about the BfA storyline is it just seems silly and petty compared to Legion storyline. We just spend the last expansion working together to defeat one of the biggest threats in the known universe. Class halls were made and classes worked even closer together, regardless of faction. Much of the storyline plotpoints specifically addressed each faction coming to realizations that in the grand scheme of things, the other faction wasn’t so bad after all, and overall, shared a lot of the same ideals. And it didn’t even start with Legion content; Blizz just significantly ramped it up in Legion.
So if anything, it seemed to me Legion was an expansion setting up to get rid of factions altogether - or at least allow players to choose which faction to be part of moving forward, regardless of race. This would have been a perfectly logical and reasonable next step for BfA.
But instead, out of nowhere, we’re back to the factions doubling down with fighting among ourselves, and you just know it’s going to end with both factions fighting a common enemy (money is on Ashzara => N’Zoth). So yeah, this whole Horde vs. Alliance thing in BfA just seems petty and trite AF at this point.
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I don’t agree that Anduin hasn’t learned anything. He was ready to kill Sylvanas if need be, and he released Saurfang. Anduin is about the only one who is getting good character development from this.
Other than that you’re right I think. Especially Eitrigg. You were best buddies with Tirion dude.
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You think this story is compelling???
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