Happy little chance that invalidates content and difficulty levels to the game, hence making everything pointless outside an achievement or a title.
The two are not parallel.
If people complain and express their true feelings towards a system in the game. Generally speaking the development team will take action.
Just because Blizzard said it wont be removed, doesn’t mean it can’t happen.
“If people complain”
I dont see a majority of opinion on the matter, all I see is another “I dont like this so remove it” thread…
Then you are intentionally blocking it out
Then you are intentionally blocking it out
I am treating it the same way i see the plethora of “remove x and remove y” for spurious reasons.
Blizzard has already said on at least three occasions, one of them very recently, titanforging is fine as as.
I dont see a reason TO remove it.
If we were to go on these lines, HALF of WOW content and systems would be gone by now. It is getting more than a little silly.
A player gets done by another player “remove x trinket”.
A player doesnt want others to see content “Remove LFR”. - how many of these absurd threads have we seen over the years? Too many.
Crepe said it best, look at what you can put INTO the game rather than what you want removed, dont look at what you want to take away from other players.
- Invalidates content
- Removes obtainable BiS
- To be competitive it makes you do redundant content over and over and over
- Feels like gear is luck based and not skill based
- Removes the drive to do harder content
I’m sure others can add to my list.
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Invalidates content - buzzphrase. Clarify.
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Removes obtainable BiS - no it doesnt.
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To be competitive it makes you do redundant content over and over and over -
Not at all…then again your above comment could easily be applied to raiding. -
Feels like gear is luck based and not skill based - Nope. You still get gear at a specific ilevel.
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Removes the drive to do harder content - subjective and impossible to quantify or prove.
Yup you are intentionally ignoring my points and are trolling. Probably why your history is hidden.
[Yup you are intentionally ignoring my points and are trolling. Probably why your history is hidden.
You listed a series of points and I asked you to clarify them.
Disagreeing with you is not trolling, whether my history is hidden or not is irrelevant. Some of the things you raised are very subjective, which means they dont submit to a simple answer.
Read my last post, everything is said there. I’m not going to sit here and write an essay until you get it. Read what everyones saying and don’t dismiss peoples opinions as:
Then lets boil this down.
Please clarify this one statement.
Invalidates content
In which way?
Titanforging is not going anywhere, so get used to it.
It is not Blizzard’s fault that people stopped seeing Titanforging as a lucky bonus and instead started seeing it as mandatory and devalued gear because it didn’t forge decently.
I used to defend Blizzard blindly too, until WOD happened. And now BFA.
classic wont have it… Have fun there.
Running old tiers went out lonnnnnnnng ago. This isn’t classic… nobody wants to be stuck in molten bore.
Except it doesnt… BiS is still BiS even if it doesn’t have a socket. Do you want guildies to get BiS then stop playing because there is no point?
Thats funny… you stated earlier it invalidates content… now you have to run the invalidated content? /boggle.
Mythic raiders always get a base 385… im sorry someone that had a .05% chance got something and rustled your jimmies.
Nope i still see people doing mythic… it’s as low as ever but they are still doing it.
Pull a mythic boss 300+ times. Picture how much time and effort it took to get the kill. Now loot the boss and get a pair for 385 boots. Now picture a guy who is afk in the corner of a warfront hiding at the edge of the map so no one will realistically see him so they can vote kick him. He gets a 395 pair for boots with the same stats and possibly a socket. How does that not invalidate content?
Now picture a guy who is afk in the corner of a warfront hiding at the edge of the map so no one will realistically see him so they can vote kick him. He gets a 395 pair for boots with the same stats and possibly a socket.
Answer:
He gets one piece of gear vs a mythic raider who will outgear him in all the other slots. One 395 wont change much when all your other gear is 340.
The mythic raider will be all 385 or better, so they will have been rewarded appropriately.
Why do you care? Since when does someone else getting loot from content X make your ability to enjoy content Y invalid? It doesn’t. Stop getting worked up over loot that isn’t yours.
I think a lot of people just see it as pure crap, and have since uncapped ( up to max ilvl) forging was introduced in legion. That’s how I see it at least.
Alright lets do it.
So you know how we have 4 raid difficulties right?
LFR 340ilvl loot
Normal 355 ilvl loot
Heroic 370ilvl loot
Mythic 385ilvl loot
Now what happens if I run LFR at 320 ilvl and happen to get a weapon that titan forges to 385ilvl with a socket? or any item in fact with the +45ilvl titanforge and a socket.
that slot out of your 11 slot of gears you are trying to fill out (assuming you use 2h and not counting neck slot/head/shoulder/chest) is done, you don’t NEED to hunt down that slot again even if you go to Mythic raiding.
Lets say you progress more, now you’r doing normal and same thing happens to another slot, remember now your getting 355 so you only need a +30ilvl titanforge and a socket so your odds just got better.
By the time you reach heroic half way most of your gear is already 385 or higher.
Whats the point of even going through the hassle to do mythic?
The player had to just stop at LFR and try his luck, a extremely lucky player gets 380ilvl within 3 weeks of hitting max level (even much much less, I’m being really generous here.)
Now all this content is gone and the drive is not there anymore. So what does a player who has hit that goal at 3 weeks do with the remaining 30~ weeks until next major content patch and ilvl boost? Play alts and do the same thing again? Maybe. or maybe they just unsub and wait till next major patch and just the repeat of the samething until they just never re-sub.
Edit: warforge is the same cancer as titanforge on this game