The real wow killer?

IM LOOKING AT THE GRAPH.

I just posted the GRAPH!

DATE SUBSCRIBERS ACTIVE PLAYERS
2020-10 99,869,354 1,897,518

That says 99 Million dude CAN YOU READ?

https://mmo-population.com/r/archeage#:~:text=ArcheAge%20is%20estimated%20to%20have%202%2C219%2C923%20total%20players%20or%20subscribers

Something WoW could honestly benefit from, in my opinion.

I’ve advocated for a “WoW 2” for years. I think the current writing team is…questionable, at best. And a lot of their weakness comes from just not writing the current cast of characters very well. With how messy the world is, the line of expansions, and the stories themselves, honestly I think WoW needs a nice, hard reset where the world can feel fresh again. Use the universe, keep some of the newer characters, and just start over where we’re not fighting Gods and flinging universes at each other like anime protagonists.

Again that site says Wow has 100m Subscribers.

Nothing you link from there holds ANY value.

WOW: TOTAL PLAYERS 101.32M

The thing I like (well one of the things at least) is FF has one continuous/coherant storyline. I know that has long been ruined in WoW, but If they ever make a WoW2 (i have my doubts, but one can hope) they go that route even if it means the game “ends” at some point.

I’d be okay with that. Having a set end destination is honestly healthy for a game. It’s part of why I generally preferred the story when it focuses on an iconic villain over a “gotcha!” surprise villain.

Something to just pick WoW back up. Needs a serious face lift.

Are you telling me that over the past 5 years Warcraft has never had a drop in subscribers?

Please.

That’s clearly showing the total ever subscriptions, because otherwise Blizzard themselves would be bragging about data like this.

The important part are the active player counts: 1.8 million today, and an estimated 2.8 over the month. Last month had 2.7.

Lost me at “Korean MMO”… Those game almost always suck terribly…

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WoW has been dying since the beginning of the game and every single mmo was predicted to be it’s slayer, even classic was said to finally kill off retail for good. And yet here we all are.

It literally states they only track the last 5 years.

Dude you are seriously delusional.

Those people have ZERO Clue anything they are saying.

Archeage Sold over 2m copies, in the first week of Beta. And your telling me its had 2 million subs lifetime?

Find a different source and well talk, thats a crack pot source my friend.

Now I see, he is using the total all time. L O L.

OP no one cares about all time, they care about concurrent.

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The numbers are not even right for all time.

they dont even do all time, they do last 5 years.

the WOW description is from WOD.

That is literal garbage source. You people have issues.

Then please, show us a better source.

A better source for what?

Subscriber numbers for games 7 years ago?

Subscriber numbers for games today?

Your the one talking crazy, I even agreed with you, I am not suprised if 42k is current Archeage numbers. That has nothing to do with 7 years ago, which that site doesnt even track.

Ah, so you have no source for any of your numbers.

Okay.

I’mma just take the W here.

Good luck advertising your generic Korean MMO.

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What W are you taking?

Your not taking a W, because you have not posted ANYTHING contesting anything I have said?

Im talking about Apples and your saying “But the Oranges”

The Home screen numbers,

“Must Play MMOs Top 6”

Do line up with what I have said though, funny enough.

2.8 million for wow, which most of are in China.
1.5m for FF14 which is all NA/EU.

If SL is bad. Yeah it will. Seriously no mmo will kill This game. The only thing that will kill wow is by pulling the plug on the servers

You were only right about one thing in your post, and that would be that the only thing that can kill WoW is WoW itself.

Every new MMORPG on the market that gets the tiniest bit of buzz suddenly gets the tag of “WoW killer”. In 16 years, guess what no MMORPG has been able to do? If you guessed “kill WoW” then congrats, you’re right!

I watched that video - the UI looks messy, the world views aren’t much different than BDO, and there’s currently only 5 classes to play. I would go back to playing ESO before I waste time trying to learn Elyon. Can WoW survive a bad SL and Elyon release? Emphatically, yes. Can Elyon survive a WoW SL release? Outside of Korea, highly unlikely.

Honestly, that sounds like you just described BfA. Not WoW, I still enjoy WoW, but BfA you nailed it.

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WOW is still more pretty and vibrant then this game, imho.