More opinions backed by opinions. I only want the truth and facts. Provide these and we can talk.
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You can call whatever you like. We’ve already seen it. BC was plagued by this issue. It’s why modern expansions have catch up mechanics to get you ready for whatever the current raid tier is.
GDKP is a player created solution to this problem.
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Explain how GDKPs don’t increase RMT
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How is GDKP letting you buy end game gear while AH allows you to buy Preraid bis/leveling gear an opinion lol. One clearly affects a character more then another.
The only scenario where this is flipped is in Hardcore.
Whats with people putting words in my mouth? Go use the quote function to tell me where I said that. My point isnt whether GDKP’s increase RMT. My point is it doesent matter and RMT happens either way through many different methods and has since wow was released. Doesent matter what RMT was being used for or what raiding method. Sure ban GDKP’s the RMT will still occur because people will just buy carries like in retail from a guild selling runs? My point is that if you dont go to GDKP’s the GDKP’s dont affect your gameplay at all. You think the people running GDKP’s will suddenly be like /LookingForGroup “GDKPS are banned so we are now looking to carry people for free, must have grey parses and be able to take all loot from us so we get nothing out of this run but our time wasted”
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There are BoE bis pieces. Thunderbrow Ring. I think there’s a pair of leather shoulders. Wrath bracers for casters. Etc.
Anyone who sells that ring for 250g has to know they’re taking RMT money. Should we start banning players who don’t sell their items for X% over vendor price?
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I think gold buyers should be permanently banned, immediately.
So you admit GDKP increases RMT, then? So you’re bringing more gold buyers to the game with your preferred loot method?
Some of them legitimately believe that I think. That they think of people don’t spend their lockouts on gdkp they’ll just take whoever instead of simply not playing.
You’re too daft to have a proper conversation with sorry.
You think creating a characyter, leveling the character up, grinding gear and gold to get the character to a spot where he can boost another character is parallel to buying gold with a credit card.
Like what?
It would be the same if you bought the character you use to boost with.
The Exemption does not prove the rule. How many Bis pieces drop from raid that are soulbound vs unbound that you can put on the AH.
Carries in retail were dramatically reduced when they banned selling communities.
Yes they still exist but its less prevalent and that is the point.
Will Banning GDKPs Fix RMT no. But it will reduced one of the major pain points in RMT while promoting normal raid groups that do no encourage siphoning gold from RMT users.
Sure, I am not delusional like some on these forums. It would be fair to admit that GDKP’s do increase RMT, but you are taking a great loot system and condemning it because of bad people. Do certain drugs like fentanyl have a huge problem with killing people and drug overdoses? Absolutely, but should that drug be banned because people misuse it and other people would potentially suffer with out it? Hopefully your answer is no. BAN RMT not GDKP’s. Thats what you want, anything other than that and you are a hypocrite.
Argument complete.
I don’t care if the method is preferred if it is quite obviously ruining the fabric of the game.
Ban gold buyers, perma, after first offense and disable GDKP until that is common practice.
GG
Way to avoid any other part of my question/statement. I see how you think and live in your own bubble and refuse facts like many others here lol. Disabling GDKP’s would do nothing as I already stated people would just sell full blown carries and items? It doesent solve the main issue at all.
There is no counter. You are knowingly and willingly increasing RMT in the game.
You lose.
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If someone comes into a raid with no gear, gray parsing but has 10s of thousands of gold in the raid for gear. Sorry the rates of RMTer vs legit farmer is so unbelievably rare.
Which brings it to this. Its more being used as a way to wash gold from gold buyers into the economy.
You have also refused to properly respond to anything. So added to the ignored list.
Also not one person in this thread or any other has given me one valid reason as to how GDKP’s affect their gameplay other than the “inflation increases because of GDKPs” which is not a fact in the slightest. Even if it did, you dont have to BUY anything off the AH. Everything has a fair chance for everyone to get. Need a flask? Go level up alchemy and farm the mats. EZ
EDIT: Okay hypocrite and so are you when you use the AH or buy and sell anything to a real player lmfao. You have admitted now more than one time you are a hypocrite.
They diminish the prevalence of all other loot methods, including guilds. They ruin the economy, completely.
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Occam’s Razor. If you have to do mental gymnastics to defend your argument then it probably isn’t correct.
The amount of exceptions you have has to make to justify your stance that gdkps are evil but all other exchanges of gold aren’t makes it feel like that’s an alternative motive for wanting to ban gdkps.
Is that the point? They didn’t ban boosting, they just banned communities which were using out of game tools to connect people across servers and using escrow functionality which caused Blizzard is lose track of the gold. GDKP doesn’t have that problem - all of the gold is moved between players in the same group on the same server.
O P I N I O N. Is that what your life is about? oof. It hasnt diminished the 100s of thousands of guilds that dont run GDKP’s crazy I guess idk.
It isn’t an opinion. It is a well documented fact.
Check out Staysafe’s recent video. He even brings this exact point up. Anyone that has played Era or Classic at all in recent years knows this to be true.