The problem with BM

Yea this was exactly my point here with this

But if it generally makes the PvP community unhappy to even fight a BM even when a BM is trash tier then that’s a big problem.

Everybody hates fighting everything unless it’s undertuned and unfavored, man.

That’s my point, even when BM was unfavored and undertuned people still cried about it because “passive damage blah blah”. It happens every expac.

Throughput/dps specs winning on dmg eventually is fine, it’s just annoying when it’s 30% ahead of other specs/playstyles and you can throw a bm hunter in any comp

Of course, but even when BM is trash tier and people still consider an AI spec toxic…this should be a good indicator for Blizzard to redesign. If 99% of the PvP population hate AI specs in general whether they are trash tier or god tier then that warrants at least a discussion on redesign.

Well they’re wrong so

Maybe yes, maybe no. But when BM is overtuned it feels extremely bad to play against, and when it’s undertuned it feels horrible to play because you just don’t have the toolkits or active abilities to even compete. There just isn’t a middle ground currently. At the start of this Expac I felt like a straight up CC bot most games that did less total DoT damage than an Aff locks UA tick.

And when it feels extremely bad to play against Blizzard tends to just gut BM by tuning damage down on passive pet damage to the point where BM is back to the instant trash tier. No middle ground.

That’s not true at all, you can feat pet, root pet, aoe stun pet.

Hey, did you test it ?

Ok so in PvP on the dummy I’m getting a 500k shield as MM with 7.3mil HP. But weird thing is on a PvE dummy with 5.8mil HP I’m getting 700k shield. Something is def off.

Yea I’m pretty sure the Sentinel Shield is nerfed in PvP

Yep, one more thing to make us run for BM Hunter, lol

Yea I feel like I remember them putting something in the patch notes about Sentinel being PvP nerfed at some point.

Yeah healing is reduced in PvP, you didn’t know that?

yes i hit 2mils regularly on my aug doesn’t mean i always have finishing power. same thing would happen

i was memeing lol no chance blizzard would put that many restrictions on 1 class. they already don’t like when spells do different things in different places

If you have issues with finishing power, I recommend using your hands or other devices.

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Don’t be a coward!

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Yea I couldn’t remember if it was nerfed or not, haven’t touched MM since it went dogwater damage.

All healing is across the board

I think Sentinel at some point in this expac was also nerfed on the absorb shield specifically. Right now though gotta say I’m loving WW Monk. It feels extremely tank compared to what it used to be.