Cool, lets buff demo by 200% so we can keep the bm hunters in check then.
So now they check the casters and we check the bms and absolutely no one is miserable amirite.
Or maybe…we cut the damage of bm being 30-40% above everyone else.
Did you have this energy in SLS2 when arms ret was disgusting?
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Or you can actually bring up the specs that hunter generally has harder time dealing with (shaman, ret, warrior, DK, etc).
Splay can continue to dumpster melee cleaves.
Ret/war or sham/war can dumpster the hunters.
Hunters / sham can dumpster the SPlay teams.
SLS2 literally had three dominant comps.
RMP killed ret/war.
Jungle killed RMP.
Ret/war killed jungle.
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Yeh yeh yeh.
Lets buff your spec to deal with them. Such an unbiased well meaning take.
Im sure that wont create issues either. Kek
I play a variety of classes and specs, pal. All I want to see is variety on the ladder. Simply nerfing BM hunter isn’t going to get us there.
This hasn’t been a thing since they removed all the active mitigation button from pets. Cleave damage is too high and too easy/passive.
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This discussion of removing the ability for Hunter to rez pet without Turtle Shelling brings back Dragonflight S1 PTSD when Ferals and Devokers were cleaving my pet in half a second on the opener.
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30-40% above everyone else. If a bm is doing that much above you your doing something really wrong on your lock. Bm is definitely s tier but so are quite a few specs. Feral crazy, Frost mage, i dont play many but arcane mage is crazy too, ele, shadow, demo, affi, devoker probably missing a few. Even survival is doing around 950k dps. Fury does ok not sure where it sits its debatable. Not sure where arms sits either. Ret seems ok in 3s not so much in 2s but 2s means nothing its a meme bracket. Rogues seem at least A tier.
At this point why not just buff the other specs up some. Bring up fire mage, destro, mm, dh, enhance, boomy.
A warlock saying it does 40% less dps than a bm is a you thing. I do 950k-1.20mil dps on a target dummy that cant root or fear my pets. In arena on a player with verse its way less. But your claim is everyone else can only do 600k dps…
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Nah sofan is a god bro.
No one cares about your dummy sims.
Ingame, a bm hunter can easily dish out 70m dmg when everyone else is at 50m for example.
Affli doing the same dmg or feral is not the flex you think it is.
Those specs rot with dots. Bm is single target.
You need to pick dude. Youre hot n cold all the time. Its like you secretly love me but cant handle it.
Seems tough.
Negative win loss, opinion rejected.
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I actually played a couple games last night against Aff locks. In the first game the Aff lock literally did negative damage because he just full on panicked when I popped offensive CDs and didn’t even bother trying to cast and blew every defensive overlapping eachother. The second Aff Lock game I played the Aff player beat my damage by a good bit (Even though he was kill target the entire time) and rotated defensives properly. We lost that game with our Cupid Cleave comp against Spriest/Aff lock/ Resto Sham…simply put they were just much better players and the first Aff didn’t really seem like they knew what to do as a caster if they were pressured.
Dependant on comps you face bm can for sure top charts then other games it can be beaten. Also bm hunters have to fight eachother too. Its not like i get to just escape all the bm hunters you have to play vs.
Actually BM is not Single Target. During Call of the Wild Black Arrow hits up to 5 targets since Beast Cleave gets activated, Stomp is also AoE. The only real spells that are pure Single Target is Barbed Shot DoT which ticks for about 160-200k and Kill Commands which hit for about 220-240k.
It’s a common misconception that since BM Hunters don’t take Multi-shot that they are pure Single target damage.
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Exactly some players cope with less skill. Then complain for nerfs. Im absolutely certain bm is better than i play it at the top end. Im not the best bm by any means. But 30-40% less dps is a cope
Eh I wouldn’t say this is a skill thing. It’s pretty easy to overlook the specific mechanics of Black Arrow and how it works with Call of the Wild.
Aight guys you got me. All the BM fotm rerollers and the sudden spike in BM players have absolutely nothing to do with the latest patch and buffs.
I guess the BM damage being so high is just a false illusion from everyone else.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Never said any of this. I was just letting you know BM damage during cooldowns is Cleave AoE damage. I’ve stated multiple times in multiple threads that Black Arrow itself is way overtuned on damage and needs a solid 40-50% damage adjustment for BM.