The Pro-TBC people want to destroy our world again a second time

oh man, i just read that. time to move on.

Did Blizzard specifically say this was a vanilla only project? From what I’ve seen they want to recapture old content. I can see they might not want to change it since they called it a, “museum piece” but it’s ultimately up to them.

but why would blizzard remove classic? i recall ion saying that vanilla would be here to stay. and that they might do the same down the road with tbc assuming it was worth it.

if classic draws players=money why would they remove it and replace it with tbc when it’ll draw different crowds over time. its actiblizz, they got the monies in their sights.

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So how many iterations of this game, how many patches, until you’re happy.

That’s the point, that’s always been the point

Because I don’t think there’ll be as many after years with an active sub.

As many as Blizzard thinks is worth doing.

oh the pop will crash hard at some point that’s for sure. but so will every expansion. what are they going to do when they get to cata and nobody plays? start over?

a good chunk of players will stop right at tbc launch if it gets added on top of classic. there’s a lot of people that don’t want all of their time/work thrown down the drain every 2 years all over again.

they have a chance to redo it. if they take the same path i don’t see anywhere near the amount at classic launch being around again.

i’ve been through it all. i certainly have no interest in that.

being able to pop into classic and play around when I feel like it is a major factor that drew me back in. too many other games to have fun playing to go through all this again if my progress is completely pointless all over again.

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BC didn’t kill WoW. BC and WotLK saw much higher sub counts than vanilla. Cata killed WoW. And a great deal of people like myself are only playing classic because we anticipate BC/WotLK one day.

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As long as it’s a separate option (with perhaps a one-time character transfer or copy option), I don’t see why Blizz wouldn’t do it. If there’s a demand, they should create the supply. And like Classic, all they’d be doing is offering a specific time period in WoW’s history. Which is something worth doing.

i’d argue the change in wrath was what started the kill. then cata finished it off when people realized it wasn’t just wrath it was the direction they really intended to go.

but then again, i’d argue wow is still making the monies and not yet dead.

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No, there is no “As many as Blizzard thinks is worth doing”

Welcome to reality. There not going to make a server type for every player out there. And why should they? I mean just look at yourselves, you can barely handle a Vanilla server.

How is a TBC server gonna fix anything? Complaining about Priests being a mana battery? DST loot distribution? Pally tank hard favoritism?

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Yes there is.

Blizzard isn’t going to make a server for every player because they don’t think that would be worth it. They might consider TBC and Wotlk servers worth it, though.

They don’t really care about the forums crying about stuff when it’s making them money.

they will as long as it keeps people subbed. tbc/wrath are content that’s already developed, they did the brunt of the work getting vanilla functional as classic, they can spend the next 6 years following the tbc/wrath patch cycle with minimum effort.

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there are many of us just enjoying playing classic as it is. i’d enjoy tbc just the same. i’m already aware of the things i disliked and liked back then. it’ll be the same. all the while the forums will rage on. even if they did anything to change things, the forums would rage on.

i prefer to enjoy playing the game that i expected to play. even with the minor differences.

what they should really look into is making seasonal servers with extreme gimmicks that last 3-12 months depending on how long they keep players attention. diablo style seasons. heck, they could even add hardcore servers.

once they have a few more expansions up, it would be interesting to see. that would be assuming its worth the cost.

that should keep the attention of people that constantly need to be progressing to nowhere.

What’s your cut-off. What if someone wants a Cataclysm server, or a Legion server.

my cut off is them adding the expansions to classic.

if they have them all side by side, i have no cut off. if they add them on top of classic then its tbc. i wouldn’t even be here past the announcement of tbc being added to classic. it’ll be the first time since warcraft I that i abandon blizzard. i’ve no interest in retail at all at this point. classic has my interest. tbc and wotlk will have it also, likely, but i’ll still hop into classic.

as i mentioned earlier. i have zero interest in going through the entire process again. absolutely none. been there, done that.

what i want is to be able to hop into the old games i used to play. either play some toons i’ve already pimped out or start a new toon. like i do with all my other old games that i still play semi regularly, because they’re good games.

Honestly, I’m going to have to count myself as “Pro-TBC”. Hands down it was the best time I had playing WoW. I do hope that they do expand and add TBC servers as well, However, I agree with you that Classic should be Classic, as pure as possible. If they do come out with TBC servers I would want it to be its own thing and as true to the original release as possible. I have seen other posts advocating the ability to copy characters over so you don’t have to start from scratch. I’m all sot that so I can head to the Outlands on day one. However, even if they made us start from scratch I’d still do it.

Retail is not home to those who want TBC, or WoTLK, or Cata, or MoP. . . The slide to retail has been an ongoing process since patch 1.1 and where someone wants to draw the line on when that fall began is going to vary widely. Ask 100 people and you will get 100 answers on where the beginning of the slide towards retail was. Personally I would say the true slide started with Cata. Talking to people in classic I hear a lot of people stating their favorite time in WoW was in Vanillia, TBC, or WoTLK but few people have mentioned anything past that. Based on subscriber count alone there is an argument to be made that the slide toward retail started with Cata as WoTLK was when WoW hit its peak.

So yes, I agree. Classic should stay Classic, no one should be forced to move on to something different if this was where they want to be. Just as a Classic-TBC server or a Classic-WoTLK should stay true to what it was when it was back then and and keep some servers going for the people who wan’t to stay.

agreed but my fear and I have seen people saying they should move the classic server over to those expansions If they force the classic servers to them I will just unsub

TBC is objectively better in every way except for the open world. There are many bad game design choices in vanilla like the ranking system encouraging unhealthy life choices and TBC fixed most of those.

i’m pro tbc or wotlk…though i think tbc was better kinda

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