Trade and general chat was better when servers had their own community which is now gone thanks to crz. Was still toxic but not nearly as bad.
I am sorry you had that experience. I know you might not believe me, but there are a lot of people who help people. Whenever I see people asking for help or have questions then I jump in when I can. There has been numerous times I have helped brand new players and then I will give them a couple k gold to help them on their way. I would stay in touch with them and a few have moved on back then to do mythic raiding so it makes me happy that they progressed like that.
But overall, in my experience I have seen a lot more people help others out than be toxic to them compared to many other games. If it comes down to it, make a post here or in the New Players forums (if there still is one) and people will group up with you to help or ask you to add them so you can message them in game.
Hopefully you shake it off and move on ignore those people as you will find plenty of people who will help you.
1- All of these things have always existed. It didn’t suddenly turn into this-- with dwindling playerbase, it just appears that a problem has become worse because the amount of toxic players now out shine the amount of decent players.
2- There comes a point where as mature adults, you place players on Ignore and more on. Blizzard put these tools in game for you to take responsibility for the interactions you have in the game. It’s up to you to take the initiative and do it.
2- The Report feature. You need to use it.
3- It’s just as childish behavior to have an option available to you, that can control the type of social interaction you have in the game, and not use it.
These are my thoughts.
2 Likes
This is not something new. It has always been happening no matter how far you go back or what rose colored glasses people wear.
so i just switched from alliance and moved to horde… i reccomend to you to do this as well… the player base is more skilled and less toxic
Normally I’d offer to help someone like OP with a Firelands run, since I know the stat squish made life a little rough for 110s, but he honestly seems just as “toxic” as the people he’s complaining about. In all honestly, I think a server transfer to a dead server or one more your speed like Proudmoore would be in order.
1 Like
I too played Everquest. However in Everquest the group was crucial to success and dying/ wiping was sort of accepted. Moving on after a wipe was expected,. Also damage meters did not exist and camping for the zones and groups made a necessity to have some social skills trying to be nice to other players to be able to progress your character. In WOW all of that is non existent!
Just saying.
1 Like
Basically…you want WoW players to be censored because your feefees were hurt…
Yeah, You may have played this game for a long time now, but you definitely aren’t its material.
Suggest a different game if being told something is over priced is upsetting to you.
2 Likes
Loads of empirical data backs this up. The faction imbalance in the competitive scenes is outrageous.
eh…maybe
I won’t question the fact there will always be someone there who is either rude and/or will stir up trouble, you have to be careful about how you frame your argument; it came across as not just overly pessimistic and apathetic, but also permissive of the behaviour.
You don’t have to be everyone’s friend, but sometimes taking those few seconds to tell someone they’re going too far can be the little change that help everyone out. Quite often, you can be doing the “jerk” a favour by telling them they’re going out of line; some of them don’t mean to come across as that, but can get caught up in the moment.
… but yes, there’s definitely a few “hard cases” which are seemingly impossible to solve without throwing the basis of civil society out the window.
1 Like
Find a good, reasonably busy guild and stick with them. I rarely play with people I don’t know anymore, and turned trade chat off years ago. My enjoyment of the game has only gone up since limiting my interactions with strangers.
1 Like
Did not read as already went to bathroom … but roll horde
Other than complaining in AV … lfr and pugs are all friendly so far ive seen
Already have Horde alts. I prefer Alliance overall.
So are Alliance ones 8p
Just because something is the “average price”, or that there’s twenty ather priced the same way, or that the add-ons told you so doesn’t really mean it is the average price. What’s the median price? How long has the item been out? Is it in demand? Why is it in demand, or not in demand? Is it going to diminish in value over the next few days? Weeks? Months? Is it super rare? Is it a sorta common uncommon that people have heavily skewed the average price?
Your price is only as smart as the decision you make. Relying on a computer program to spit a number out at you is a bad way to do business.
Problem is wow ditched its community after the burning crusade. Now it is dozens of different communities each joining at different times and each naturally disposing the other.
Think space hulk from war hammer 40k. We will never have a United community like old school runescape as each of wows expansions play as it’s own game.
Wow’s isn’t any more exceptionally bad than any other part of the internet. Like others pointed out the natural flow of the self policing community went out the door when they introduced CRZ. At this point there is no going back and that means really nothing they can do about it. There is simply no way you would have the manpower to monitor chat and do something about it.
How bad is it? I’ve never experienced this, and know no one who has. Sounds like you’ve just had a couple outlying experiences with toxic players.
I’m sorry that you’re having such a bad time since you’ve returned. (Don’t know how much positive response you’ll get on these forums.) If you haven’t, definitely look at the server forums to see which social and leveling guilds are recruiting. It may be that you were accidentally joining raiding guilds who aren’t known for really helping people who are leveling.
If I were still playing WoW, I’d help you. I used to run old raids all the time until they made them forced personal loot. (And now they’re legacy loot mode, which isn’t much better, imo.)
If you can’t find a good guild and community in WoW, you might try FFXIV instead. I have received help in that game when I asked, and people are actually encouraged - and rewarded - for being nice to one another. Not saying there aren’t trolls there, too, but for one, there isn’t a trade chat for people to be jerks on. (And so far, only one person has been annoying and everyone else has been great.)
Anyway, I hope that you find some fun people to do things with in WoW if you decide to stay. Good luck!
I’ve seen a person ask an innocent question before in trade and be told things to do which would destroy their computer. Of course, I immediately whispered them and told them what to and not to do. I stopped reading trade chat for most of Legion because it was so bad. (There were times someone would ask a question and get 10 helpful answers, too, so I’m not saying there weren’t any nice people in trade. Just that the toxic, troll answers skyrocketed in Legion for some reason.)
If you want to sell your stuff the auction house is waiting for you. Trade chat is for trading memes, politics and other fun things. Not for your spam every 10 seconds.
The first rule is you will rarely, if ever, find help in Trade Chat (or any other in-game chat channel). I definitely feel the pain of it never being a productive or positive avenue of communication.
If you advertise in Trade Chat then yes you may be rightly criticized for your pricing – people are constantly trying to sell stuff at twice (or triple) the going rate and somebody will call you out on it. This isn’t toxicity but making less knowledgable players aware of the full situation and that the seller might be taking them for a ride.
You can’t just assume that people will give you carries even to old content simply because you ask – although I definitely think somebody who goes in and clears out the raid (or part of it) without you getting to do your thing is a complete jerk. I admit I can’t neccesarily critique how your exchange went when you asked for help since I don’t know the details.
Trolling, even mean-spirited trolling, is a part of the game and isn’t anything remotely new – in fact some people would argue it was worse in vanilla and TBC as a way to punish players who didn’t educate themselves or expected others to do the work for them.