Did you know that the archers melee through the floor and walls, the los doesn’t work most of the time.
Jumping up the back of the ally base is a lot easier, takes less jumps and doesn’t have to perfect to make it.
You don’t even need a mount to do it.
It’s not skipping only a few archers, but a major choke point.
For someone who wants all bugs to be fixed you seem to down play the one in your favour.
Come back to me when the back door is allowing the horde to win in 7 minutes
So now we are judging backdoors and work around based on which one gives you the fastest time? So the 7 min backdoor not ok but 10 minute is fine…
Just trying to follow the logic here
Ez.
Back in the days I knew a lot of people who changed faction from Alliance to Horde because they said Alliance players were younger, less mature and more annoying. It had nothing to do with racials.
Just so you know.
And now all those youngins have 15 plus years of growing up under their belts…
So what was the excuse this time? You just assumed that while ou aged 15 years the alliance faction stayed frozen in time as 15 year old weebs?
Precisely. Isnt that right LegolasxXx69 and BigDGimli?
Gnomes are also a huge deterrent.
At least this made up excuse is different than the others.
can you guys stop playing the dumb?, paladin bublle are INVULNERABLE. the window you get to kill the paladin is like 10 yard. if he manage to drop the waterfall , warmaster get stuck into it. this is game exploit in a pvp environmental. do they fix the path that would make you go on top of WSG? yes they did because it wast exploiting. why would you want to keep an exploit in AV then? all aliance are crying on horde about thiere racial and how they re loosing. its your own damn fault if alliance are take ll the best player to put it togther in a premade, and then it makes your games 10v40, or you are being overwhelmed beause your top rank, is rank 8. Its all alliance’s fault and yet there are still blaming horde and blizzard. i feel like, because you guys are alliance, you feel entitle to winning.
Vids have been shown that they path perfectly fine, no bugging at all.
Please go on though.
The pally bubble is a spell they are given…
Let’s take away their invulnerable bubble as soon as shamans lose totems all together
Also let’s start banning hunters that solo tribute runs…while it doesn’t directly affect anyone in the moment, it inflates the economy, floods it with mana and health potions, and gives too many players access to good rings and mage staffs that they didn’t earn!
Lmao Kiting is part of the game get over it
I’ve played both sides over the years. Neither one is exclusively more mature then the other.
I dont condone ANY exploits or unintended back doors
But as it stands. The back door is doing NOTHING to win horde games they weren’t already winning
Meanwhile alliance premades have near 100% win rates abusing the paladin pull exploit.
Until the meta shifts to horde winning games in less than 10 minutes consistently im not really gonna be focusing too much attention on irrelevant things like an unhelpfull backdoor that hardly even gets used
Would be even better if Vann or Drek didnt even spawn until warmasters or marshals were dead.
Then take the numbers away from BG queues and make it so if you leave a queue, you get deserter debuff.
So if the Paladin makes it over the water fall he is suddenly free from Horde attacks?
To paraphrase then…”I’m not concerned about any advantage we have until we win all the time…then it’s unfair. But if we have the advantage and can’t use it to win 100% of the one then it’s fine to stick around”
If the alliance didn’t spawn, what do you think the fastest time horde could complete the van kill in? That’s essentially the alliance premade strategy right now. Treat the horde like little flies needing swatting but pay them little to no attention and finish the bg as far as possible…
If the paladin makes it past the waterfall its too late
If 25-30 alliance made it to relief hut and soft capped it and FW…it’s too late
The pull, solo or not, doesn’t matter. If the warmasters WERE chained, or the pally pull didn’t hve a waterfall and there was absolutely no other way to kite them, then ally would win in 8 minutes (2 extra min to kill warmasters)
No it’s not. The bottom of the waterfall isnt some magic place Horde cant go.
Im really not sure why this has to be repeated to you and so many others.
The kiting is not the issue. The issue is that AV is set up a certain way that when you take objective or do things, other things happen. All of AV is now irrelevant because its possible for Alli to simply bypass ALL AV mechanics and just get drek alone, regardless of whow well the other team did.
But But But… why doesn’t horde just do the same thing?
First of all, this is a stupid response for too many obvious reasons. But the short answer is: “we cant”. Even If another class were able to pull this off so easily ( just run in and round em up with 100% success rate even for a bad player), We still have the isse of that area has like 20 NPCs all over so theres nowhere to kite.
But But But… Take it to the bridge. Oh you mean past the 2 towers of 8 archers shooting you for 20% hp from 2 miles away?
Horde simply cannot do this.