The open case due to Fair play on wow?

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There is a case that is in its finding stage that is looking for information about how the team with WoW is not doing enough about the cheating in random battle grounds.

Even when I brought it up to a Mod they told me to bring it here to talk about because they can not do anything about programing.

People are just going to smoke screen and gaslight like its not going on but i have streams for days to prove it and report after report has been done by me on my streams and for months to only show that the cheaters are still playing and people like me that gets upset calls them out because of what they are doing in game gets a 7 day ban .

when you have pre made groups in bgā€™s zoning in and they are leaving after the first fight to throw the balance off the bg its not a pre made , its cheating .

Most of this comes from the server Moon Guard .

There is a community that once was called SOD premadeā€™s but they change there names so much its hard to keep up what they call their self now and they are leading this effort.

We pay for fair play, we have no choice when we zone in to a random bg that it is random for us but they have 10 to 20 people zoning in with them that play both sides and cheats to win bgā€™s .

I am not the only one seeing this and will be hated due to me saying anything but I have been playing since day one and the pre made groups from back then are not the same of today.

They fought to win , never cheated to throw the game off and if you was not geared, did not do your best , you where labeled and called out every bg .

You cant do that in bgā€™s today because you get a group of people sending in false reports and you get a ban just for saying something someone was doing wrong in a bg.

This has been going on for over 2 years now and I glad that things are being noticed but the question is what is Wow going to do to make things change themselves ?

Are you going to remove this post and gaslight , act like there is no issue?

Are the people that doing the cheating to far up the food chain to do anything about them or their numbers to great so out of fear nothing is done?

Is this why Wow went from #1 played game to #12 ?

Do you truly want to keep people that play this game , that grind and have bought every x pack up to now playing , without fixing something that is driving more and more people away from this game .

We donā€™t play to be cheated out of moving foreword by people that is being overlooked by staff and they get the best gear season after season by cheating .

There is nothing ever done to them and they keep getting away with it , will it take a court case to make things change before you listen?

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It seems like this accidentally got posted in the wrong place because this is the Classic General Discussion forum (used mostly for Classic Era)

You can change the forum for your thread using the top drop downs from the edit, maybe to one of the following:
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thank you I changed it , i did not see where it was listed until you told me .

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hahaha premade communities are such a jokeā€¦they arent pvp players. so lets just start off by making sure we start there. second, blizz seems to love and adore the little premadlings because any negative or light being thrown their way to expose what they are doing gets shut down real quick. i wouldnā€™t be surprised if this thread gets burried.
But keep posting! These garbage players needs to be the ones who get shut down not the players with integrity

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I agree with what youā€™ve posted and there are hundreds of replies to other posts on this same forum about this. Your post is just another amongst a sea of posts about premades in Epic BGs.

At this point blizzard must be aware of it, they recently made a change to give account wide deserter buffs, which is a good start, but certainly more needs to be done. There should be penalties for premade groups not accepting queue pops in addition to joining and leaving. Itā€™s about the only way to neuter epic premade groups so that the ā€œscoutsā€ are not the only ones getting penalties.

Another solution that should be implemented would be cross faction teams for BGs so that premades would go against themselves by getting split up regularly.

Unfortunately I donā€™t think blizzard has any intentions of dealing with it beyond the recent account wide deserter changes. Who knows maybe they will surprise us but I wouldnā€™t hold your breath.

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Just do rated PvP and you can get full gear way faster than them.

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Just checking - are you sure itā€™s SOD and not other communities? If itā€™s the SOD I know, its name has never changed, and I donā€™t think itā€™s active these dayā€¦

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well its people that played and was in leadership in their group because I have them tagged.

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I see - was a bit surprised when I saw that, and thanks for the clarification :slight_smile:

What you presented is understandable. The challenge is to see situation improved, so this is not just another thread for venting frustrationā€¦

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As i have been in every epic bg today since the restart , streamed all , like always and lost everyone one of them not because of lack of trying but because the people people are not even playing they go afk , they don;t heal , they dont put down lock rocks, no buffs all from the start of the bg.

Then the bg starts and no one but maybe 5 people out f 35 can be found the rest is off on their own doing what these pre made fail groups do.

The only reason I play these games id for pvp and its gone way down hill in this game , truly debating to leave all the games alone and find a different hobby after over 20 years of this money sink, truly wish there was a way to get all my money back I spent into this game.

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I have also been experiencing the gaslighting despite having tons and tons of recorded video, and a few times, ive queued into win trading teams and they have actually TOLD me to stop winning so they can boost their client. Also ive noticed that when you go into a big named streamers channel and mention it, they gaslight you or even time you out. my theory was that they are also cheating and dont want the info out there. So i loaded up warcraft yesterday, and opened up all of my ā€œfavoriteā€ streamers channels and noticed something. They will play a couple games, then ā€œgo to the bathroomā€, holding their phone, and come back and accept the next availible queue. and just like that, you have multiple streamers in the same match, trading. You can even CLEARLY see teams like overgear etc selling rating in BLITZ during OFFSEASON, but yet no one realizes that you are in fact who they are farming points from. My theory is that blizzard knows about this and doesnt care, because 1) more active users means more investors money, 2) certain wintrading teams are actually owned by teams that compete for world first, and this is how they raise a large portion of their money. (and yes, without naming names, i am directly speaking about a few of everyones ā€˜favoriteā€™ streamers.) Ive seen vods where they talk about how they raised money for world first competition, and among the top answer is that they sell carries or rating. Its all happening right in front of our eyes, and if you complain about it, NOOO its gotta be YOUR fault somehow. im tired of it tbh. uninstalled again today.

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you canā€™t even touch rated till 512 and even then itā€™s a mess right now since geared players are testing out changes to their classes which makes every BG or Arena one sided by a margin.

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It has gotten so bad that they do not even have a topic for it anymore.

Thet do not even have a topic about pvp any longer.

This whole week I only won three rated bgs, I know I will get spammed try harder.

One person cannot lose the bg for the whole team unless they bot and drop the flag at the other peopleā€™s team, I have seen it and have the stream five times and how do you report that in a rated bg?

You canā€™t do it at the end I tried.

You send a report to support, and they tell you to come here.

You call the people out in here; they take down your post or ban you.

You get mad and cuss they block your account for a month.

You call out a gm that you see playing with these people and they ban you.

Who do you turn to in a game that should be fair and balanced?

Itā€™s not.

This post, like my others, will go unnoticed or a GM will flag it because they believe the game is simply fine but itā€™s not.

When you drop 100 ratings in a week because the game is allowing people to cue and leave cue 15 times in a role to allow bots to get in the game then you are on the horde team all week long , I donā€™t play horde , I have not been on a ally team all week and know i did no choose it be on it .

I got to 1500 ranking and then this started, bounced from 1398 to 1430 now back to 1397.

People will say get good, I play my part, which is not the issue.

The issue is this game allows too many bots to play or they set up to lose rank at 1500 so you canā€™t get to 1500 unless you do something else besides rated battle grounds.

Iā€™m a BM hunter and in a single or twos bg I donā€™t stand a chance and would lose more rating.
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I know my limit.

You come to troll ill just flag your commit and let them deal with it.

I am looking for answers not people that give me issues every time I post the gm does nothing to them, but I respond and get banned.

Something must change; it has truly gotten out of hand.