The old pvp ranking system needs tweaks

Depends on the server and how you’re farming honor. Yeah, sure if you’re farming AV it’s going to be much less efficient and may require more than 16 hours a day. If you have a good premade that you run with you can do it in under 12.

And if there’s someone farming with the same efficiency, for more than 16 hours a day due to ToS abuse, you’ll never get it. You’re missing the point.

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No, I get what you’re saying. It’s based on a curve. But someone account sharing probably isn’t going to be farming efficiently. The premade they’d be with would know and it seems likely someone would report them. That’s not to say it’s impossible, but I think it’s much less likely than it was in 2005/2006.

no

If it’s a premade, there is likely a “line” for rank 14 within that premade. Why would someone report and jeopardize their rank 14 slot? I don’t have a problem with the time commitment, but I feel like the system actively encourages cheating. Doubly so with the new server populations. Granted, Blizzard likely has much better methods of cracking down on account sharing, but I’m not sure if they could know if certain methods were used (same VPN account).

Well if someone gets a ban/suspension before hitting rank 14 they’d lose their spot in line.

As far as encouraging cheating, I agree Blizzard needs to crack down hard in order to prevent account sharing because people will be tempted.

On that note, PvP in general encourages a lot of really bad behavior, and we could cull a lot of those behaviors by simply restricting PvP to battlegrounds. :wink:

Bad behavior in this context means ToS abuse of various forms. Idk of anything about PvP in general that encourages ToS abuse.

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shrugs Sarcasm doesn’t translate well in text sometimes.

You are right…the system does need tweeks. That’s why we got a new honor system in tbc that rewarded skill over time played.

But at the same time, this is vanilla. Warts and all.

as long is 99.9% of players cant get GM or highwarlord. id be fine with the change. IMO pvp gear ruined pvp once everyone had every piece.

So PvP was ruined by something that never happened in vanilla? Or do you mean TBC PvP gear? If you think PvP gear ruined PvP, it is more likely that you didn’t like resilience (since that was added with TBC PvP gear).

i am pretty sire they have pvp gear in vanilla… resilience made it worse. but pvp gear in general, some of the items being BIS is a problem aswell.

Yes, but this

“IMO pvp gear ruined pvp once everyone had every piece.”

never happened.

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Or you know you can just enjoy the game and stop complaining.

yes that is my point, that is why i want the gear to be rare.

The gear isn’t that great anyway. It is much easier to show up to a raid a couple times a week and get better gear for the most part.

The gear IS amazing, also the PvP system does NOT need tweaks. The only thing that needs tweaks is blizzards thought process in regard to progressive itemization and patching.

yes as it should be.

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