The #nochanges slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy

You can’t buy a sub to classic only, so that sounds like a personal issue. This game is free with that sub.

Or you could say that game is free with a sub to classic.

I could, but that would be wrong.

Watch, they will do something like require you to purchase the latest expansion to keep playing it.

Its not wrong. Your sub is to wow. Not modern wow. Just wow. You get both.

If they required buying the most recent expansion to wow to play classic they would lose sybs.

But the game already is only vanilla like.

That’s just wrong. You have to know that it’s wrong too because it’s so easy to disprove.

How much does WoW Classic cost? As for cost, this server option is free as long as you have a subscription for the current game, which costs $15 a month

I trust you know what the current game means.

Gameplay, class design, models, balance, largely devoid of most post vanilla quality of life?
Most the changes that made it in, only did so because modern engine.

Aside from the awful and abused layering, how many changes impact gameplay?

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The way they phrase that is wrong. You dont have to have a sub to the CURRENT GAME. Because the current game is BFA.

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But that’s not the issue.

Classic is playing very differently than vanilla did regardless.

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Even when presented with the definition from blizzard you refuse to acknowledge it.

I think you are just being obstinate now.

You combine classes at their strongest, raids and dungeons at their weakest, with twice the debuff limit and what do you expect?

What is the current game? Thr current game is bfa. Some people dont have it. Still playing classic.

Besides. If you want to talk about obstinate you pro changers have been linked all sorts of sources of the same blizzard saying changes wont happen and yet YOU’RE STILL ASKING.

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The most current is bfa, all of the other content is totally free without any purchase. You just have to maintain your sub.

That is probably why gold making in older expansions were nerfed as well.

Regardless though, you can’t just sub to classic. You may feel that you are, but your Battlenet account would say otherwise.

All your bnet account says is wow subscription and gives the latest expansion you purchased. Which would not mean current

Always happy to see how many people support changes that will make this game better, like dual spec and a pvp tournament realm. Keep it up peeps, blizz already made great changes like layering and a bunch of other stuff- if we keep asking they will grant our wishes!

That is only part of it.

I think a player base with huge amounts of knowledge and resources that didn’t exist in vanilla is a much bigger factor.

The idea that people would get the same experience has always been a joke, and it’s been proved. Trying to hang onto that idea is somewhat like hanging onto the idea that parachute pants will make a comeback.

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And they were pretty clear that classic is free with that sub.

Not my fault if can’t grasp that. You aren’t subbing to classic, it’s free.

God help us if that happens.

Did you read the entire page?

Kahane says, “The slippery slope fallacy is committed only when we accept without further justification or argument that once the first step is taken, the others are going to follow, or that whatever would justify the first step would in fact justify the rest.” The problem then arises as to how to evaluate the likelihood that certain steps would follow.

Slipper slope isn’t fallacious all the time, you just need to be able to show that one thing is likely to lead to the next.

Saying that adding, say, dual spec, will lead to modern talents would be a slippery slope. There’s little between these two that would necessarily move from one stage to the next.

Saying, however, that adding the dungeon finder could lead to a break down of the overall feel of the game play and weaken the integrity of individual runs? That could be argued, at the very least by saying that if it’s easy to leave and queue again then it’s likely that people will use that to avoid sticking with a group that isn’t performing as quickly as they’d like. Currently there’s some encouragement to stick through a few wipes because leaving is incredibly time consuming, as is finding a new group (unless you’re the tank).

Some “slippery slope” arguments are not fallacious, some are certainly fallacious. “Adding convenience may create a desire for more convenience.” doesn’t feel like a fallacious argument because that’s precisely what did happen in retail.

When you can draw a line between the two events you’re trying to connect and create a reasonable argument for why they might lead into each other, it’s no longer fallacious. That doesn’t mean that everyone (or even most) are actually doing so, but slippery slope isn’t inherently a fallacy.

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He was a bitter Wall of No spammer, just ignore him.

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